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Senator Graham (rankles some over) comments on (president) Lincoln
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Posted on 03/08/2005 12:14:35 PM PST by DixieOklahoma

3/7/2005

GOP senator Graham rankles some over comments on Lincoln

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

Senator Lindsey Graham has ignited a new furor in Washington over comments he made over the weekend referring to his state’s difficulty in “getting over” President Abraham Lincoln, with apparent reference to Lincoln’s role in the civil war and the freeing of American slaves, RAW STORY has learned.

“We don’t do Lincoln Day Dinners in South Carolina,” Senator Graham told a Lincoln Day gathering in Tennessee Saturday. “It’s nothing personal, but it takes awhile to get over things.”

According to a Knoxville News Sentinel article published Sunday, Graham entertained an amicable crowd and joked about his predecessor in the Senate, former Sen. Strom Thurmond.

“In theory, I have 50 more years left in the Senate,” Graham remarked.

The article, titled “GOP senator has unifying message,” was picked up upon by the progressive Washington blog DC Inside Scoop.

The Democratic National Committee said Sen. Graham’s remarks were inappropriate and that they echoed comments made by former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS), which resulted in Lott’s removal as Senate leader.

“Joke or not, this is exactly the type of comment that Trent Lott made when he was deposed as leader,” said DNC spokesman Jano Cabrera. “It has no place in public discourse.”

“He should apologize,” Cabrera added.

Sen. Graham’s office was closed and could not be reached for comment Monday evening.

Several Hill offices declined immediate comment, saying they wanted to review Graham’s remarks in full, and that on such a delicate matter, the members in question would have to approve any responses.

Sen. Lott told a 2002 birthday celebration in honor of Sen. Strom Thurmond that he was proud his state supported Thurmond’s pro-segregation 1948 campaign.

“We’re proud of it,” Lott said. “And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over all these years either,” Lott said.

The resulting outcry cost Lott his job as Majority Leader. Lott later apologized, saying racism and segregation were “immoral.”


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To: Non-Sequitur
Sure...just as soon as you name a southern one.

Tom Coburn, newly elected senator from Oklahoma, probably the most conservative member of the senate.
101 posted on 03/10/2005 4:17:14 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: Real American Voters=1 Dead Democrats=0)
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To: Non-Sequitur; Admin Moderator

what are you doing on this site? Who did YOU vote for in 2004? You've been all over the map, supporting big government by being against states rights, then being against big government by supporting states rights. All the while you find a way to bash president Bush. Sounds like a TROLL if you ask me.


102 posted on 03/10/2005 4:24:40 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: Real American Voters=1 Dead Democrats=0)
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To: DixieOklahoma

Gotta love Oklahoma, where even some of its Democrat Senators have ranked as among the most conservative members.


103 posted on 03/10/2005 4:51:51 PM PST by labard1
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To: DixieOklahoma
You've been all over the map, supporting big government by being against states rights, then being against big government by supporting states rights.

Well look at the pot calling the kettle black.

All the while you find a way to bash president Bush.

Truth hurt?

Sounds like a TROLL if you ask me.

So who asked you?

104 posted on 03/10/2005 5:01:28 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
So who asked you?

I would appreciate you answering me as to who you voted for in this election.

labard1:

Indeed. It is crazy, when we had the democrat primary for brad carson's house seat, the two democrats kaylen free and dan boren ran attack ads you'd expect to see in a republican primary. For instance one of dan boren's attack ads on television in the dem primary had a horrible black and white picture of kaylen free and an anouncer in the background saying "Do you support all abortion on demand, including partial birth abortion? Kaylen Free does, infact she has voted for abortion more times than any other oklahoma politician in the history of the state, and Free was recently quoted as saying there was nothing 'wrong with abortion'. Thats not the kind of representation we want for oklahoma in Washington DC. Vote Dan Boren, a real OKLAHOMA democrat for representative."

Dan Boren won the primary and election, he is actually a pretty conservative politician in the house. My brother works for the oklahoma republican party, and use to be chief of staff for a former oklahoma congressman in the oklahoma delegation to the house. He is a really really conservative guy, he also knows Boren personally and said if he lived in my district he would vote for Boren because Boren is a really good guy, and is conservative on most issues.
105 posted on 03/10/2005 6:42:23 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: Real American Voters=1 Dead Democrats=0)
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To: DixieOklahoma
Is Dan the son of former Senator Boren?
106 posted on 03/10/2005 10:16:57 PM PST by labard1
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To: labard1

yes.


107 posted on 03/10/2005 10:24:26 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: Real American Voters=1 Dead Democrats=0)
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To: DixieOklahoma

Yeah well screw Lincoln, the Dim party and anyone else who doesn't like what the man said.

I don't celebrate that treasonous jerk's day either.


108 posted on 03/10/2005 10:27:48 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: clintonh8r

If it's a dem saying it, it's just a harmless joke. If it's a pub, the heavens will fall if they don't lose their job over it.. and that's if they even actually meant what dims imply.
Both sides just need to shut up.


109 posted on 03/10/2005 10:31:38 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: DixieOklahoma
He was my favorite Democrat. For example, late in the Reagan second term the Dims were holding up all new judicial appointments so Reagan's successor could fill the seats. Boren would have none of it, and moved Oklahoma Republican nominees through the process promptly.
110 posted on 03/10/2005 10:32:26 PM PST by labard1
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To: Non-Sequitur
There are some who might say that there is no Republican party today. Just a mockery of the word.

I would say there is no conservative party today, just a mockery of the word. The Republican party, well, it might just be "back to it's roots" the way certain book-peddling pseudo-historians chime on about the way the R's should be "progressive" and all. Interesting when I think about how the Republicans were formed as a reactionary party, and now it's the Democrats who are trying to apply that model across the board to everything from abortion to gay rights. Their core philosophy seems to be morphing into, "Whatever Republicans say is wrong," while the Republicans are morphing into, "Whatever you say can't be wrong, so long as you vote for us."

Even more interesting is that when you were asking others to name a Southern conservative, the first person to pop into my head??? Zel Miller. Might just be because he gets a lot of press, though.

111 posted on 03/11/2005 3:37:44 AM PST by Gianni
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To: Gianni
I would say there is no conservative party today, just a mockery of the word.

Under Reagan, 'Republican' and 'Conservative' were synonymous.

Even more interesting is that when you were asking others to name a Southern conservative, the first person to pop into my head??? Zel Miller.

Miller is no more dedicated to true conservative values of fiscal responsibility and smaller government than President Bush is. He just talks a lot.

112 posted on 03/11/2005 3:40:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; DixieOklahoma; Mudboy Slim; Gabz; iceskater; jla
Sure...just as soon as you name a southern one.

George Allen, Virginia.

And Virginia's next great Governor, Jerry Kilgore.

There's two.

113 posted on 03/11/2005 3:44:01 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
George Allen, Virginia.

How did Senator Allen vote on the Prescription Drug Plan? I believe he voted for it, supporting a fiscally irresponsible big government give-away. How did Senator Allen vote on court reform? I believe he voted for it, injecting the federal government into state courts and limiting states rights. Where does Senator Allen stand on the gay marriage amendment and school testing? I believe he is for both, and an increase in federal interference into private lives and state institutitions. What has Senator Allen done to reduce the size of government and reign in spending? Nothing that I'm aware of.

Senator Allen is what passes for a conservative in the South. Which is what I've been complaining about all along.

114 posted on 03/11/2005 3:51:24 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

*yawn*


115 posted on 03/11/2005 3:56:28 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: inkling

Of course, saying of a former Klansman - one who recruited others into the Klan - that there is no moment in American history where he would not be welcomed - or words to that effect - is no big deal.


116 posted on 03/11/2005 4:00:54 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
*yawn*

I've noticed that when one tries to talk about conservative values like smaller and less intrusive government, states rights, and fiscal responsiblility that is the usual response from southern Republicans.

117 posted on 03/11/2005 4:03:50 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
And, I've noticed that you've got a burr up your butt about anything Southern...
118 posted on 03/11/2005 4:05:25 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
*yawn*

If smaller and less intrusive government, states rights, and fiscal responsiblity are not conservative values in your opinion, then what are conservative values?

119 posted on 03/11/2005 4:07:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Corin Stormhands
And, I've noticed that you've got a burr up your butt about anything Southern...

Not anything. Just the southern rebellion, what the south has done to the Reagan legacy, and what passes for barbecue in the Carolinas.

120 posted on 03/11/2005 4:08:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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