[Last Visible Dog]

Pick one It seems that this has been a problem with various Creative players for a long time.

Did you actually read any of those links. The first page is all for the same model - Creative Nomad MuVo - which is not a hard disk MP3 player - it is a cheap flash MP3 player.

You clearly don't understand what you are talking about.

Try again

[antiRepublicrat]

You clearly don't understand what you are talking about.

Keep reading to see the Zen mentioned.