[soundandvision]

There were two turning points as I recall. When apple decided to protect the operating system and when Jobs treated Gates badly in their face-to-face in the 80s. I think it was amazing that Gates kept developing Mac software and even put millions into apple.

I think it's 'hip' to say that you like Jobs and hate Gates...

[antiRepublicrat]

I think it's 'hip' to say that you like Jobs and hate Gates

I can't stand either of them.

[bigsigh]

pro apple has always been hip, while pro gates is corporate. At least that's the marketing.