Showdown at border?

WorldNetDaily ^ | March 7, 2005 | Joseph Farah

[DTogo]

Here we go again. Similar thread eventually got pulled last night.

[Dan Evans]

Why was it pulled?

[clee1]

"When you have untrained civilians, that are armed, that are out in the middle of the desert, in the middle of the night, in the dark, and they meet up with one of these smuggling organizations ... you're going to have a gun fight," said Adame.

Exactly right. A few gunfights might let the illegals know that there are serious risks to entering the USA illegally.

As to the "untrained civilians" remark, who does Adame think won freedom for this country in the first place?

[tertiary01]

PING

[sarah_f]

The administration will come down squarely on the side of the foreign gang. American patriots will be shot and go to federal prison.

[Dan Evans]

I see. So he thinks if he ignores a problem it will go away.

[Dan Evans]

The administration will come down squarely on the side of the foreign gang. American patriots will be shot and go to federal prison.

Depends on how many sign up. Maybe they will outnumber the border patrol.

[injin]

Ebner Anivel Rivera-Paz needs to be taken for a swim
slightly off shore at the Farallon Islands .....

[DTogo]

And those were the exact reasons last night, a mild flame war erupted and the post (the article) was very mean-spirited to begin with.

[k2blader]

More comments here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1357537/posts

I have no problem with it being posted twice. It's good for this info to get out.

[k2blader]

Well, if certain folks stopped showing up on threads starting flamewars by calling some of us "racists", "neo-nazis", and "vigilantes", it wouldn't be a problem.

[rimmont]

The President is asleep.

[Dan Evans]

Why did they stop taking volunteers?

[Northern Alliance]

These threads get pulled every single time they come out for two reasons: 1) The founder of FR does not want to endorse vigilantism. 2) They're magnets for flame wars. They always deginerate into that.

I haven't been around here for long, but it seems like many topics, evolution in particular, and even the Patriot Act are much more likely to generate flames and personal attacks. I very much hope you are not right and that it will not get pulled for either of these reasons, especially #1. I'll be really disillusioned with FR if it does.

[drt1]

I heard this the other day and it DID strike a chord:

Minutemen = Undocumented Border Patrol Agents

Just doing jobs that no American Gov't Employee will or wants to do.

[tracer]

"Ten percent of our members are retired law enforcement officers who have a right to carry a concealed weapon. They probably will carry and you won't know it," he said. "But Andy Adame with the U.S. Border Patrol in Tucson warned "people are going to get hurt." Adame said many of these volunteers don't know what they're in for."

"When you have untrained civilians, that are armed, that are out in the middle of the desert, in the middle of the night, in the dark, and they meet up with one of these smuggling organizations ... you're going to have a gun fight," said Adame."

Adame assumes much -- likely without supporting information. And he should look up the word "ambush" in Webster's and imagine how it might be employed against invaders (BTW, who "trained" them?) stupid enough to start a "gun fight" in the dark against defenders supported by well-concealed backups in large numbers.

And let's not fret about limited numbers of former LEOs (most of who themselves have never been in a real gunfight) carrying concealed. AZ is an open-carry state, and getting an out-of-state CCW is no big deal. Besides, nobody would want to conceal rifles and shotguns, anyway.....