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Family section takes new tack to support gay adoptions
Florida Bar Journal ^ | March 1, 2005 | Jan Pudlow, Senior Editor

Posted on 03/07/2005 12:58:26 PM PST by longtermmemmory

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This is totally disgusting and I ask for any help you can offer. The FL Bar Board of Governors SPECIFICALLY told the Family Law Section they could NOT advocate homosexual adoptions because the issue was too divisive to the purpose of the Florida Bar. This entire article is legal double speak because it would also seek to open the door to sex partner adoptions (aka second parent adoptions)

The Bar told the Family Law Section they many NOT advocate homosexual adoption but they continued to promote it on their section website in disregard of the Board of Governors. Both the Florida Supreme Court and the 11th Federal District court have upheld FL prohibition on homosexual adoptions.

If these lawyers want to advocate a PERSONAL sexual cause they they are free to do so without the use of the FL Bar name and appearance of sanction. Even though sections are voluntary and in theory the money is seperate, the sections still use the reputation and influence of "Florida Bar" as part of their promotions. The notion that a family law section member drafted this law in a myth of personal capacity, THEN as a section official pushed for homosexual adotions before the board only speaks as to how much this does not belong as part of the FL Bar function. The family law section should have IMMEDIATLY removed all homosexual adoption promotional lobbying materials from their website, they should have immediatly ceased trying to figure out ways to bypass the board of governors.

My fellow members here, please help diseminate this to as many as you can know to oppose this travesty. If you know of a lawyer who can write a letter or article to the Florida Bar news at Mark Killian (Florida Bar News ) mkillian@flabar.org. Even letters by non-lawyers should be considered. If you can provide non-religious based arguments why the FL Bar should not be involved in this sexual behavior politics, that would be the most helpful. They recieve so few letters, let your voices be heard.

These are the contacts to the Board of Governors:

Send an email to these and it should be distributed to all of the Board Members.

Paul Hill phill@flabar.org

Rebecca Burke rburke@flabar.org

All Others Board of Governor Issues:

Tina Ruffin mruffin@flabar.org

The President of the Florida Bar can be contacted at

President@flabar.org


Please any ping lists or chapters that may be able to help would be very welcome.


The bill is in the house committee here:

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/bills_detail.aspx?Id=16171&sBillNumberText=633&iSessionSelectedIndex=0&iChamberSelectedIndex=2

If you are able to contact a Florida Representative and a Florida Senator Please do so.

Links are here

http://www.flsenate.gov/

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/


I will post the text of the bill bellow.

IT IS VERY VERY SNEAKY and INCIDIOUS!! They are trying to legalize homosexuals adopting children by using the deceptive trick of a bland nothwithstanding. That effort at trickery alone speaks volumes for the homosexual promoting this.

The fact a Republican would co-sponsor such obvious effort at deception is a disgrace. The homo-advocates do not believe anyone will pay attention and pass it because it does not say "homosexual" just a legalese reference to section 63.042.


In closing all constructive help to stop this is welcomed and requested.

1 posted on 03/07/2005 12:58:26 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory

Our wonderful Massachusetts Bar Association endorsed the state's same sex marriage court decision. Federalist Society, here I come!


2 posted on 03/07/2005 12:59:47 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Joe Brower; Nightshift; cyn

Florida ping


3 posted on 03/07/2005 1:00:55 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{---><Petition to Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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A bill to be entitled
An act relating to adoption; creating s. 63.0421, F.S.;
providing for adoptive eligibility and preference for
foster parents seeking to adopt a child after caring for
the child for a specified period of time and meeting
certain criteria; creating s. 63.139, F.S.; providing
factors to be considered by a court in determining whether
to grant an adoption petition; providing an effective
date.
It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:
Section 1. Section 63.0421, Florida Statutes, is created
read:


63.0421 Adoption by foster parents; preference.--
(1) Notwithstanding s. 63.042, any person or couple who as
foster parent or parents under chapter 409 has cared for a
child for 36 months or more is eligible to adopt the child. The
person or couple may apply to the adopting entity for placement
the child for adoption if:
(a) The child is eligible for adoption.
(b) The foster parent or parents have developed a bond
with the child.
(c) The foster parent or parents have an excellent record
foster parenting of the child.
(2) Any foster parent or parents meeting the criteria in
subsection (1) and seeking to adopt the child shall be given

preference and first consideration by the adopting entity and
the courts.

Section 2. Section 63.139, Florida Statutes, is created to
read:
63.139 Adoption criteria.--
(1) The best interests of the child shall be paramount in
determining whether an adoption petition concerning the child is
granted. The decision shall be based upon the needs of the
individual child and the ability of the petitioner to meet those
needs.
(2) Factors to be considered in determining whether an
adoption under this chapter is in the best interests of the
child may include, but are not be limited to, the following:
(a) Where relevant, the factors used in determining an
award of child custody under s. 61.13(3).
(b) The petitioner's ability to provide the child with
conditions and opportunities to promote the healthy personality
growth, character development, and education of the child.
(c) The petitioner's ability to assume responsibility for
the safety, care, and support of the child, including:
1. The petitioner's financial resources.
2. Whether the petitioner's housing facilities would
provide a stable environment that meets the child's needs.
(d) The petitioner's ability to offer a reasonably happy
and secure family life with love, understanding, guidance, and
companionship.


Section 3. This act shall take effect July 1, 2005. NOTE: UNDERLINED POTIONS REPRESENT NEW LAW. THE PORTION IN RED WAS EMPHASIS ADDED TO SHOW THE PORTION WHICH WOULD OVERTURN THE FLORIDA LAW PROHIBITING HOMOSEXUALS FROM ADOPTING CHILDREN. The red is the deception part. The homo-advocates were calculating that by not using the words "gay" or "homosexual" they could slip this past the legislators. Remind them 53.042 prohibits homosexual adoption, that is why the homosexual want the nothwistanding clause. IRONIC since FL Sunshine law requires bill have PLAIN MEANING TITLES.


Link to PDF file of proposed homosexual adoption law: http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/loadDoc.aspx?FileName=_h0633__.doc&DocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=0633&Session=2005
4 posted on 03/07/2005 1:11:32 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: scripter; DirtyHarryY2K; OXENinFLA; little jeremiah; EdReform

Ping for Help

Could you please ping your lists for this please.

Help is needed because the homosexual adovcate lawyers are trying to slip homosexual adoption by deception.

PS: Any letters you could write to the Florida Bar would help too.


5 posted on 03/07/2005 1:15:42 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Unfortunatly for some of freepers, the state bar is mandatory. There is no going anywhere.

This issue should have died when the board of governors said NO.

Instead the family law section is practicing deception in order to legalize homosexual adoption at all costs.

The family law section STILL has pro-homosexual adoption lobbying materials on their website even after the Board of Governors told them to stop.


6 posted on 03/07/2005 1:18:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

That's exactly what I thought while reading the article. How incredibly sneaky and cunning. They are trying to find a chink in the wall to slither through. When was it made okay for homosexuals to foster parent kids? I would have said then that it wouldn't stop with just that. I will certainly do the emailing and such, and hope it helps you. Please keep us updated on how it turns out.
Dee


7 posted on 03/07/2005 1:18:24 PM PST by mother22wife21 ("Mama, Mama, wake up , God has brought us another day present.")
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To: mother22wife21; Famishus

pingy ping. Here is another one.


8 posted on 03/07/2005 1:20:41 PM PST by mother22wife21 ("Mama, Mama, wake up , God has brought us another day present.")
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To: mother22wife21

The majority of states do not allow second parent or limit second parent adoption. Second parent adoption is doublespeak for homosexual sex partner adoption. This arguably would open the door to that type of adoption too.

Many in the ABA want to make it legal for a homosexaul lover to adopt a child even if the parental rights of the non-homosexual mother or father have never been terminated and there is no problem with their parenting.

If you could take the time to perhaps write to the FL Bar President ( president@flabar.org ) or perhaps cc some of the others on the list all help would be apprecieated.

Even http://www.family.org may be a big gun we might be able to tap if enough or if anyone has an in to get this information to them.

The sheer sneakyness of this boggles the mind. If I was on the Board of Governors, I would be very very very pissed that this deception was taking place under the name of the bar.


9 posted on 03/07/2005 1:23:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
You might want to forward them articles like Study Finds Disproportionate Percentage of Illinois Foster Child Abuse is Same Sex.
10 posted on 03/07/2005 1:40:09 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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They do not care about science. It is very sad, ESPECIALLY considering how screwed up the fostercare system has been.

They want to really screw those kids.

The outrage here is the fact that these lawyers were SPECIFICALLY told they may NOT lobby to change the law to allow homosexual adoption and they went and did it ANYWAYS.


11 posted on 03/07/2005 2:12:30 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: nutmeg

Hi, could you ping your list on the chance someone from fox may be monitoring this? It is not exact Fox Fan related but if a Hanity can pick this up (not OReily) it would be helpful.

These lawyers are basically trying to usurp the FL Bar sanction despite the fact they were told to stop.


12 posted on 03/07/2005 3:01:05 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Let me first state that I am not convinced that homosexual adoption is in the best interest of the child.

That said, there is a certain logic to the argument that if gays are allowed to foster, why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt the child/children they are fostering?

The battle, in my opinion is at the foster care level.

This change of tactic is a sneaky back door attack by the Family Law Section.

Incidentally, membership in the Florida Bar is mandatory if one wishes to practice law in Florida. Section membership is optional. Let's see how many members the Family Law Section loses as a result of this.


13 posted on 03/07/2005 3:08:55 PM PST by GatorGirl
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To: longtermmemmory
Family Law Section Chair Evan Marks said it is his “hope and prayer that the Board of Governors will recognize the insanity of not allowing people who are already fostering these children” to give them permanent homes.

this is one prayer God definitely won't hear.

14 posted on 03/07/2005 3:51:45 PM PST by Nightshift (Faith is something everyone has, but the question is: Faith in What?)
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To: longtermmemmory

You have FReepmail. :o)


15 posted on 03/07/2005 5:15:53 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: holdonnow

FYI


16 posted on 03/07/2005 5:20:13 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

17 posted on 03/07/2005 5:41:23 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: GatorGirl

The section will not loose many. The section has been very much infultrated.


The problem is not the fact that membership is optional is does not disguise the fact that the family law section is acting under the auspices of the Florida Bar.

In fact the family law section needs approval to lobby for any legislation. What the section did that is sneaky and deceitful on top of the way they phrased the legislation is that the member who is pro - homo proposed the law "as a citizen" and then turns around and "discovers" the proposal and seeks to get official bar sanction to do what they are ALREADY doing. (easier to ask forgiveness than permission)

The Board of Governors ALREADY said NO. So the section is no contumaciously and with deliberation disregarding the vote of the Board of Governors and prefers this disgrace the bar. If the Board of Governors can not regulate their own section (which has no respect for them) then how can the Board of Governors regulate ANY lawyer?


18 posted on 03/07/2005 8:01:43 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: GatorGirl

BTW the 11th pretty much was very clear on the distinction between foster care and adoption. Given the recent reports of sexual abuse by homosexual adults in the foster care system, I think the whole issue should be re-evaluated.

The homoadvocates seek to target FL because FL is one of six states which have prohibition against homosexuals adopting children.

Thre are also 27 states that prohibit or limit the ability of homosexual sex partners from adopting children of their sex partners. Heather can not have two momies as a matter of law. That is not PR'ed. In fact adoptions by homosexuals are done as single "parent" adoptions. The the recreational sex partner is added on later by some legal manuver.


19 posted on 03/07/2005 8:06:19 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I would respectfully suggest that the "infiltration" level isn't as high as you suspect, but there is a ferocious fear of being found "politically incorrect".

It is interesting to read the LTTE's regarding this issue in the Florida Bar News and of course the PC responses.

I'm not surprised at this. The handwriting was on the wall with regard to the statements made by the Governors who opposed the position in the first place as "too divisive". Many of them (I can't recall exact quotes from the Bar News article) hid behind the "membership" while of course positioning themselves on the side of diversity.

Is this a "done deal" by the Fam. Exec. Comm. or must the position once again pass the Big Bar Executive and/or BOG?


20 posted on 03/07/2005 8:07:45 PM PST by GatorGirl
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