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No WMDs? Really?
The American Thinker ^ | March 7th, 2005 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 03/07/2005 12:35:40 PM PST by rightalien

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Thank you. That is a great collection of quotes.


21 posted on 03/07/2005 1:08:58 PM PST by rlmorel (Teresa Heinz-Kerry, better known as Kerry's "Noisy Two Legged ATM")
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To: rightalien

Bump.


22 posted on 03/07/2005 1:09:55 PM PST by Rocko
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To: rlmorel
That is a great collection of quotes.

Copy them. Spread them around.

When I get into it with a Lib co-worker...I toss them into an email. It usually cuts through the BS and ends the discussion...except with the most ardent of Kool-Aid drinkers.

23 posted on 03/07/2005 1:11:09 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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To: rightalien

Bump.


24 posted on 03/07/2005 1:13:52 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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To: rightalien
Iraq did indeed have WMD, and new information is coming out indicating that Russia may have moved the weapons out of Iraq just prior to the 2003 war. You can read Charles Smith's article about this at:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/2/230625.shtml, and hear an interview with Mr. Smith on this week's America Talks radio show at http://www.americatalks.com
25 posted on 03/07/2005 1:15:56 PM PST by AmericaTalks
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To: CIB-173RDABN

"A better question is why didn't Saddam open up to inspection?"


Another good question is, if Saddam had WMDs in March 2003, why didn't he use them on the invading American forces? What better time to become the next Saladin than then? Not using them gets his a$$ kicked, which is what happened. If I'm Saddam and 'the evil infidel' is whipping my military's a$$, I'm pushing every WMD button I can find. Why not? What'd he have to lose at that point?


26 posted on 03/07/2005 1:20:00 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: rightalien

Screw the RATS on this thread. One despot down with the capability of WMD..hell he USED THEM!!! I have no doubt many went to Syria in trucks. We saw them.

One less proliferator = safer world. PERIOD.

NOW...let's protect the HOME FRONT and our borders with the same vigor!!

Cheers!


27 posted on 03/07/2005 1:23:00 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Blzbba
Good questions as well, maybe he will tell as at his trial.
28 posted on 03/07/2005 1:26:16 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Blzbba
Good questions as well, maybe he will tell as at his trial.
29 posted on 03/07/2005 1:26:16 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: AmericaTalks

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/2/230625.shtml

Correct link to article.


30 posted on 03/07/2005 1:30:26 PM PST by AmericaTalks
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To: rightalien

bump


31 posted on 03/07/2005 1:34:09 PM PST by Doc-Joe
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To: Dr. Frank fan
The problem is we never really told Blix where to look. We started hemming and hawing and never told him.

I told my wife at that time the WMD issue is probably going to be a bluff (as far as knowing where they are) and that we stand a chance of not finding any.

As for not being able to count on knowing where things are, then why did we say we "knew"?

Dueffler did conclude that there were WMD's, but that the programs were not active and ongoing.

32 posted on 03/07/2005 1:36:33 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: PISANO

That sarin gas projectile launched at our military was the most buried and ignored news item coming out of Iraq since the war began. Now let's get this straight: a sarin gas projectile is a WMD!!! It was launched at our forces by terrorists. How can that information be ignored? If the terrorists had one projectile, isn't it reasonable to assume that they have access to more? I'm completely at a loss as to why the Bush admin doesn't point this out. But we found...FIFTY-THREE MORE!!!, according to the Duelfer report. No wmds...BAH!!!!


33 posted on 03/07/2005 1:44:09 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: rightalien

Gee...why is Syria so intent on maintaining troops at the Bekkah?


34 posted on 03/07/2005 1:45:08 PM PST by dasboot
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To: CIB-173RDABN

oops! I seems to be hitting the post button twice today - sorry all


35 posted on 03/07/2005 1:46:05 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: joesbucks
The problem is we never really told Blix where to look. We started hemming and hawing and never told him.

Well, I can't honestly say I know in any detail what sort of conversations took place between Hans Blix and this or that member of the US government. So, perhaps you are right.

Let us suppose you are right then. We "never really told Blix where to look". Ok, fine.

The fact remains that WMD have been found in Iraq, as per the Duelfer report.

As for not being able to count on knowing where things are, then why did we say we "knew"?

Who's this "we", anyway? Who said "we knew"? I know of one quote from Donald Rumsfeld (which came after the war started so that can't be what you're talking about). But once again this statement of yours is too hopelessly vague to be addressed.

But again, suppose you're right that "we" said "we knew" where the WMDs were, all of them. Evidently, "we" were wrong. They were elsewhere, or had been moved since our latest intelligence. So what?

The fact remains that Iraq had WMD.

Dueffler did conclude that there were WMD's, but that the programs were not active and ongoing.

Since Duelfer concluded there were WMDs, it sure would be nice if "There weren't any WMDs! We've found NOTHING!" were not the conventional wisdom, wouldn't it?

Whether "the programs" (all of them?) were "active and ongoing" (whatever that means exactly) is a separate matter and to be honest I am not sure why it matters to anything. Actually, scratch that: I am sure that it doesn't matter to anything. It is a red herring, a moved goalpost.

Saddam Hussein was not allowed to have undeclared WMDs as long as he didn't have "active, ongoing" programs. That wasn't the deal.

36 posted on 03/07/2005 1:46:30 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: b4its2late

cute comic. Looks like we knew where they were about as well as Blix did.


37 posted on 03/07/2005 1:48:33 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: Blzbba
Just like most military leaders throughout history, Saddum could have been prepared to fight the last war. It's possible he thought he could retrieve and redeploy the little nasties after the UN inspectors left and during the month long air war before the ground war began. Little did he know ...
38 posted on 03/07/2005 1:48:54 PM PST by Gumption
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To: Gumption

"It's possible he thought he could retrieve and redeploy the little nasties after the UN inspectors left and during the month long air war before the ground war began. "


It's also possible that he knew that the few WMDs he did have (like 53 or so aged sarin artillery shells) would have no real effect on our troops, other than to verify the US stance on his owning WMDs and solidify world support against him.


39 posted on 03/07/2005 1:55:24 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: joesbucks

"The French tipped off the Iraqis at every turnas to when we would be coming" - Scott Ritter...then


40 posted on 03/07/2005 2:05:25 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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