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To: hleewilder
I will say this: if there is an honest effort to answer all these questions that are circling around this issue, and it comes out that the woman was targeted by a special squad who were tipped off that she was coming through their checkpoint, I will be among the first to condemn it.

There is another possiblity - maybe there were some rogue trigger happy individuals who hate Europeans, journalists, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizers etc ... ? Who whould not mind to see this woman dead? Just wondering.

Some nasty statements here illustrate such attitude.

123 posted on 03/05/2005 8:04:18 PM PST by A. Pole (CEO of CISCO: "What we're trying to do is outline an entire strategy of becoming a Chinese company.")
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To: A. Pole

I admire you for playing devil's advocate. The bottomline question is simply: Did the Americans who fired on the vehicle know that this woman was in the car? If so, that would impy that someone from the Italian Intelligence community was in on it, or that the so-called kidnappers had a mole who told the Americans, or that there's a flying squad of Special Forces units going around with their own mobile 'Star Chamber' to mete out extrajudicial punishment and executions. I mean, I haven't heard anything about a big orange flag on this car with the words in Italian, English and Arabic saying "She's in this car". Besides, maybe somebody else in the car was the target, and not her after all. That will probably be the next angle.


129 posted on 03/05/2005 8:15:48 PM PST by hleewilder
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To: A. Pole
There is another possiblity - maybe there were some rogue trigger happy individuals who hate Europeans, journalists, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizers etc ... ? Who whould not mind to see this woman dead?

Are you trying to appear idiotic? Because you're succeeding brilliantly.

133 posted on 03/05/2005 8:24:12 PM PST by saquin
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To: A. Pole
There is another possiblity - maybe there were some rogue trigger happy individuals who hate Europeans, journalists, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizers etc ... ? Who whould not mind to see this woman dead? Just wondering.

How in blazes would soldiers who were manning a checkpoint in the middle of bum-f*ck Iraq, in the middle of the night, possibly know that the passengers in the vehicle which was speeding toward them, and ignoring major league signals to stop (gunfire, etc.) were "Europeans, journalists, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizers"? Think about what you are posting.

144 posted on 03/05/2005 8:38:00 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: A. Pole
"There is another possiblity - maybe there were some rogue trigger happy individuals who hate Europeans, journalists, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizers etc ... ? Who whould not mind to see this woman dead? Just wondering."

BVwahahahahha. . .stop it. . .you're killing me.

Yup, some rouge guys manning a check-point KNOW that some European journalist, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizer is in the car racing at them, and thinking, "Boy, time to get a little payback."

Bwahahahaha..........stop it, really, stop it.
173 posted on 03/05/2005 9:15:17 PM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: A. Pole
There is another possiblity - maybe there were some rogue trigger happy individuals who hate Europeans, journalists, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizers etc ... ? Who whould not mind to see this woman dead? Just wondering.

And it is "possible" that that particular Italian security agent had seduced the wives and girlfriends of every U.S. soldier manning that roadblock.......And had slapped their mothers and kicked their dogs too. Any human action that does not violate the limits of human capability is "possible" even though extremely implausible.

What is not possible is that "rogue trigger happy individuals who hate Europeans, journalists, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizers etc" would, through the power of mental telepathy or clairvoyance , know that a car 20 yards down the road was occupied by "Europeans, journalists, Italians, Communists and terrorist sympathizers".

Such a scenario does violate the limits of human capability.

At a checkpoint, the only thing that the soldiers know about such a car 20 yards down the road is that that particular car is being driven in a highly suspicious manner identical to the behavior expected from the suicide car bombers that strike in Iraq every few days and, if that car is not stopped dead in it's tracks, it could blown them all to Kingdom Come within the next few seconds.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Mental telepathy and clairvoyance is always totally blind.

216 posted on 03/06/2005 7:52:54 AM PST by Polybius
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