You're right on the target there. To some it comes naturally, others train for years...clerics, lawyers, psychologists and an odd imam or two...
Look at the dialogue on this thread with Texas Cowboy (from 250 through 280, about 10 posts).
It is like arguing with a child at times, and you will never get anywhere.
RS simply wants attention, and I will not give it, none of you should, either.