Neighbor, other man charged in slaying of Jersey City family

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[Fred Nerks]

You may dismiss the hadith - written about 200 years later as you say - by others with their own agenda, but the clerics do not.
I think (whoops, opinion!) it's time you established your own islamic prayer group. Before you know it, you could be an imam and have your very own mosque.
No kidding, islam needs a new movement, so don't sell yourself short.

[ariamne]

"Except for those Americans who happen to be muslim ..."
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Wrong again. Americans who are muslim identify as Muslims FIRST, then as Americans and their loyalty folllows that order.

I would be happier than anyone if fanatic muslims would abandon the ancient precepts of their barbaric religion and join the 21st century, and become loyal Americans FIRST. Our loyalty must be to America first. As a nation, we would not have prevailed otherwise.

[TexasCowboy]

You like to pick and choose which part of a post to spin.

Why didn't finish that?

"when have we seen the Muslim cult investigate any of their wrong doings?)"

You won't see it because that would be like Catholics investigating Catholics who believe in Jesus Christ.

They all believe in the same thing!

[RS]

"Before you know it, you could be an imam and have your very own mosque."

LOL - I actually went into one in Singapore - Boring on the inside, not like the Cathederals or even the Hindu temples. I don't know if they would go for my "mandatory miniskirt on every woman under 30" rule, and my " No Fat Chicks " commandment.

[Former Dodger]

Here's a good question to ponder too, Jan: Why are they holding the two accused Skels for 10 Million Dollars Bail?

And the ringleader, McDonald the tenant, has demanded and been placed in protective custody?

Curious isn't it?

Something stinks in all this, and the killers are still out there.

But we need to keep these guys from getting us all confused and off message:

[TexasCowboy]

"for a muslim to say sorry he/she would be required to DENY MOHAMMAD IS SINLESS AND DIVINE and that's apostasy!"

Fine! I don't care how they reconcile that with their cult traditions.

In order for them to win any support for me they have got to start by admitting that they belong to a cult of torture and slaughter, and they're sorry for all the grief they have caused to the whole damn world!

[SaltyJoe]

What else in the house was stolen other than an ATM card and PIN?

[TexasCowboy]

"what'sa matter ? did I touch a nerve ?"

I'm not Catholic.

I'm full blown, saved by His blood, Southern Baptist.

[Fred Nerks]

Impossible. For a mia culpa from islam, first the 'prophet' must be culpable. While islam holds mohammad as 'sinless and divine', there will be no apology. Not for anything.
Remember, had allah not willed that the Towers fall, allah would have prevented it.
Allah is merciful, all knowing, all seeing...mohammad said so.

[RS]

"when have we seen the Muslim cult investigate any of their wrong doings?"

What is this "Muslim cult" you speak of ?

I'm sure it couldn't be the religion refered to here -

"When some in my country speak in an ill-informed and insulting manner about the Muslim faith, their words are heard abroad, and do great harm to our cause in the Middle East."

[TexasCowboy]

'"When some in my country speak in an ill-informed and insulting manner about the Muslim faith, their words are heard abroad, and do great harm to our cause in the Middle East."'

Well, there's that pesky old First again.

I served my country. Did you?

[RS]

"Our loyalty must be to America first."

Oooo watch where you step here... I'm sure there are many here who, if they were forced to choose between their country and their God, would disagree with you.

[RS]

"I served my country. Did you?"

I didn't make that statement --- another Texas Cowboy did...

[TexasCowboy]

Quit sidestepping.

Answer the question.

[RS]

"Quit sidestepping.
Answer the question."

LOL - you know you've gotten to them when they avoid the topic and start thinking that somehow some personal knowledge of you will help advance their arguement... but are they also foolish enough to think they would get a truthfull answer instead of some Tanqueray.

I'm glad I've somehow earned your trust, by I just don't think you're deserving enough ...

How about you just think I was... oh, say... a Swift Boat Commander ? That make you happy ? ?

[Bennett46]

"So, are you saying that the islamic community as a whole is responsible ?"




Yes, that is what I am saying.

You have been signed up to FreeRepublic since March, 1998.

I know islam is very patient. I see your homepage begins with a confrontational question, which of course is perfectly fine in American society.

Like islam you confront...and then demand subjection.

Your homepage, and your subsequent posts are way, way. way pre-9-11.

We are on to you.

Go to some suburb and start another mosque.

There are still innocent and naive folks ready to be taken in by your bullsh-t.

I am so over you muzzie loving apologists.

[TexasCowboy]

"How about you just think I was... oh, say... a Swift Boat Commander ? "

Nope! I was pretty sure that you never served.
I just wanted to see if you had taken the oath to "protect this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic".

You haven't.

You're excused. Go play on your prayer rug. I have no more use for you.

[appalachian_dweller]

Hey FD, thanks for the ping.

ariamne, very excellent posts. Nice job!

Tex, thank you for your service.

Just my opinion here:
Some things are just too simple for people to accept. Most folks like a gray area, some wiggle room. Thanks why folks don't like Christianity - it's black and white, there is no gray area. It's simple.

That goes for these murders. There were threats posted, these poor folks ended up murdered in a horrible way, and now I've learned that some muslim folks have left the country.

I wasn't there so I can't 'prove' anything. Nor can anyone else on this thread.

Based on the history of how muslims behave themselves, they are responsible for this heinous act. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is a muzzie sympathizer.

The islamic religion is based on a lie. Mohammad was a war-mongering, lying, insane pedophile. Name one other modern 'religion' that demands death for leaving or even criticizing it.

[AmericanArchConservative]

<"...they have got to start by admitting that they belong to a cult of torture and slaughter, and they're sorry for all the grief they have caused to the whole damn world!">

I quite agree. They better begin with the unprovoked sacking, looting, raping, pillaging, and plundering of Jerusalem, then move on the same fate of Constantinople-cum-Istanbul, and later, the murderous swath Suleiman the "Magnificent" carved across Europe, stopping short outside of Vienna only due to a thunderstorm of freakish ferocity bogging down his machines of war.

The history of Islaam/muhammedanism is nothing but a history of the bloody and forceful proselytizing of neighboring villages, towns, city-states, and whole nations. This has ALWAYS been effected through the repetition of proscribed patterns and practices set forth by allah/satan, and the venal paedophile false prophet muhammed/beelzebub, prince of daemons.

They begin with apparently benign infiltration in ones and twos, steadily increasing until they have sufficient numbers to conspire upon and successfully enact other plans up to, and including political/religious assassinations to create a vacuum in local community leadership. You take out the strong, then you become the strong and rule by fear and terror.

Al-Uzza has always spread its worship thusly - never by the peaceful transformation of individual adherents' lives, nor through miraculous revivals, nor through a people repenting and humbling themselves as a nation (a la Nineveh, after whale-bait Jonah's fantastically persuasive preaching).

Let them apologise. The world has been waiting. For centuries.

I won't hold my breath...

A.A.C.

[TexasCowboy]

"I am so over you muzzie loving apologists."

Our best treatment of these muzzie lovers is to ignore them completely.

From this point forward, RS, I will never respond to one of your posts on this thread or any other. Don't ping me or I'll consider it stalking from a muzzie and hit the abuse button.