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Terminally Ill Cancer Patient Survives Doctor-Assisted Suicide Attempt in Oregon
Tampa Bay on line ^ | March 4, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 03/04/2005 12:28:13 PM PST by aculeus

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To: aculeus

Will his family now sue the doctor for malpractice, for failing to complete the procedure properly? Unfortunately, many courts would probably allow such a suit to proceed.


21 posted on 03/04/2005 12:58:26 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ClearCase_guy
John Edwards assures me that this will not hamper the lawsuit in anyway.

Not only that, but had we elected John Kerry, the man would be walking!

22 posted on 03/04/2005 1:00:00 PM PST by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: aculeus

Just another example of how individuals react differently to drugs. This guy was on one end of the ever-present bell curve.


23 posted on 03/04/2005 1:00:22 PM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: mlc9852

Yep, I was told that it just eases their passing, so that they won't fight to breathe.


25 posted on 03/04/2005 1:09:23 PM PST by Eva
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To: ClearCase_guy

He is dead, did you read the article. But his widow could still sue for mental anguish.


26 posted on 03/04/2005 1:10:11 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: aculeus
Terminally Ill Cancer Patient Survives Doctor...

That is what I read. At first I thought the doctor had dropped dead in the meantime, and the patient outlived him...until I read part of the post.

27 posted on 03/04/2005 1:13:54 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: dahicks

Most of these people are completely bedridden, and some even quadraplegics. They are not able to "go" anywhere on their own, or do much beyond operate a drug self-administration device that somebody else has filled. Such devices are routinely used on both terminal and non-terminal patients to allow the patient to control the amount and timing of pain medication, but except in assisted suicide cases, are set up in a way which makes deliberate or accidental self-administration of a lethal dose impossible.


28 posted on 03/04/2005 1:24:18 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: CGTRWK
A drawn out "natural" death is a miserable, pathetic experience for everyone involved. I wouldn't let a dog I didn't like suffer like that, let alone a person.

Exactly. There's something way wrong with a society which insists that humans die in a way which would constitute illegal cruelty if done to an animal.

29 posted on 03/04/2005 1:26:15 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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So what was the problem with merely waiting 17 days for the guy to die naturally?

Have you ever been around someone dying from cancer or a similar disease during their last few days of life? I've seen family members go like that, and it's horrible. Why should the patient have to endure such a terrible end when they can go comfortably and at their own volition? We treat farm animals and household pets better than we treat dying people.

And, just to touch on the issue of states' rights, if Oregon voters want assisted suicide to be legal in their state, why should the federal government (or other states) have any right to deny Oregonians their wishes?

30 posted on 03/04/2005 1:33:11 PM PST by nyg4168
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To: dahicks

Not everyone is in a physical state to do it, especially late terminals. The hands might be too weak to lift a 3 lbs handgun, and to pull the slide to chamber the cartridge is to grab the slide strongly and to pull against 15-25 lbs recoil spring.


31 posted on 03/04/2005 1:41:33 PM PST by GSlob
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To: nyg4168

A slow human death can be a very long and painful experience. I've always said that I wanted to die under anesthesia on an operating room table. Where your unconscious and feel nothing.

The same way they put people down for the death penalty basically.


33 posted on 03/04/2005 2:10:16 PM PST by herkbird (PAIN SUCKS)
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To: CGTRWK
A drawn out "natural" death is a miserable, pathetic experience for everyone involved.

Amazing that people have been dying just that way for thousands and thousands of years, huh?

34 posted on 03/04/2005 2:19:15 PM PST by madprof98
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To: ClearCase_guy

Which John Edwards? Hmm well both of them channel anyway.


35 posted on 03/04/2005 2:24:43 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: dahicks
Doesn't the oath that they claim to abide by say, in part, "I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion." - or something to that affect?

The Hippocratic Oath is not a matter of law. It'd be like a boy scout violating the Scouts Honor.

36 posted on 03/04/2005 2:30:18 PM PST by Beemnseven
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To: thoughtomator
Apparently, there are different versions of the Hippocratic Oath.
37 posted on 03/04/2005 2:31:52 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: dahicks
"Doesn't the oath that they claim to abide by say, in part, "I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion." - or something to that affect?"

Guess what. Doctors don't have to take the Hippcrate Oath any more. Great society we live in, huh?

38 posted on 03/04/2005 2:34:35 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly

Hippcrate = Hippocratic


39 posted on 03/04/2005 2:35:38 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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There are different versions of the oath. Many doctors have refused to take any version prohibiting abortions, and I expect some versions also are structured to allow for patient-requested assistance with bringing about death. At a medical school graduation I attended a few years ago, there were two different versions of the oath used, and the graduating class about evenly split in which one they chose -- there were two group recitations, one right after the other. At any rate, the oath is really just a tradition, like reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, and has no legal significance. I've recited the Pledge without complaint whenever it was expected of me, but I most certainly don't buy into its socialist origins and its anti-states' rights "one nation . . . indivisible" cr*p.


40 posted on 03/04/2005 2:37:35 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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