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Terror Threat From 'Very Many' Muslim Men, Says Met Chief (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 3-4-2005 | John Steele

Posted on 03/03/2005 6:35:23 PM PST by blam

Terror threat from 'very many' Muslim men, says Met chief

By John Steele, Home Affairs Correspondent
(Filed: 04/03/2005)

Britain faces a potential terrorist threat from "very many" Muslim men who returned to Britain after spending time in training camps in Afghanistan, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police said yesterday.

Sir Ian Blair, whose force, with MI5, leads anti-terrorism work in Britain, was asked if he supported the assertion of the Prime Minister earlier this week that there were "several hundred people in the UK plotting terror attacks".

The commissioner told LBC radio in London: "Yes, I am aware of the fact that there are very many people who came back from the camps in Afghanistan and who are therefore potentially a threat to the United Kingdom.

"And I agree with the Prime Minister's assessment, on that basis, that there are hundreds of people who came back from the camps and are now in the United Kingdom, and that is a very dangerous issue for us all."

Scotland Yard sources made clear Sir Ian was referring to training camps run by al-Qa'eda and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, which were destroyed in the military campaign by American and British forces after the attacks on New York and Washington in September 2001.

Security chiefs have said privately for some time that the radicalising influence of the "jihadists" who attended the camps and went to Muslim-related conflicts in Bosnia, Chechnya and Kashmir is at the heart of the threat to Britain.

Saajit Badat, from Gloucester, who admitted plotting to blow up an airliner with a shoe bomb, spent time in the camps.

In the radio interview, Sir Ian also supported the comments made earlier this week by Hazel Blears, Home Office minister, that Muslims would be disproportionately affected by anti-terrorist stops and searches by police.

"I think that Hazel is right to say it and I have said something similar in the past," Sir Ian said. "The fact is the terrorism regulations around stop and search do not require individual suspicion, they're much more akin to searches around an airport.

"In this case, while I am very concerned about the Muslim community's sense of belonging, we do have to accept that the events around the Gloucester shoe bomber do show us that there are people within that community who misguidedly, and entirely in conflict with the values of Islam, are prepared to use violence against the United Kingdom.

"Therefore we have to do something with this and I think there would be a much greater outcry if we did absolutely nothing and part of London disappeared in smoke."

At the home affairs select committee on Tuesday, Miss Blears told MPs: "The threat is most likely to come from those people associated with an extreme form of Islam, or who are falsely hiding behind Islam. It means that some of our counter-terrorism powers will be disproportionately experienced by the Muslim community. I think that is the reality and I think we should recognise that."

The "disproportionality" argument on anti-terrorism stops and searches, which do not require police suspicion and are aimed in part at disruption, is based on calculations that Asians are stopped in higher numbers than their proportion of the population would merit.

However, Met figures show that the proportion of London stops involving Asian people fell between 2002/3 and 2003/4.

• A court hearing an attempt by the US government to extradite a British man accused of terrorist offences involving American websites inciting the murder of American forces in Afghanistan and urging Muslims to fight a holy war, was adjourned yesterday.

The hearing wants to establish whether there is a "real risk" that Babar Ahmad, 30, from Tooting, south London, could be transferred from US civilian courts to the American military justice system.

His lawyers argued at Bow Street magistrates' court in London that, if he were to be designated an "enemy combatant", he could be held indefinitely without trial in a military prison or put before a military tribunal, in breach of the human rights which underpin extradition law.

Senior District Judge Timothy Workman said the issue was "clearly a matter of considerable concern and must be resolved".


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KEYWORDS: chief; islam; many; men; met; muslim; terror; threat; very
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1 posted on 03/03/2005 6:35:27 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Impossible! They are so peaceful.


2 posted on 03/03/2005 6:38:03 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Hillary, Nancy, and Barbara: Proof that there are strong men in the Democrat Party)
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To: blam
Round 'em up. Put 'em in camps. Preserve civil society.

Somehow these days Common Sense just sounds more radical then in years past.

3 posted on 03/03/2005 6:48:21 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: Paul Atreides
Yes. I am shocked that he could be so untrusting and accusatory toward the gentle Throat Slitters of Peace. Shocked, I tell you!
4 posted on 03/03/2005 6:49:45 PM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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To: blam

"Muslim men who returned to Britain after spending time in training camps in Afghanistan"


A threat? Gee ya think?


5 posted on 03/03/2005 6:52:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (The crippled stool is the cadillac of poopin stools.)
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To: blam
Any country permitting Muslims to live there is asking for trouble. And they will find it.
7 posted on 03/03/2005 7:27:20 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: blam; MadIvan
I understand the circulation of the TELEGRAPH is more than 600,000 on weekdays... is this story getting around?? Is anyone paying attention?? Or are they all looking at Page 3 of the Sun??
8 posted on 03/03/2005 9:18:42 PM PST by GeronL (Condi will not be mistaken for a cleaning lady)
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To: hellbilly
I love it, my friend. You get straight to the point and blast out the plain truth for all to see and nobody to be able to deny.

And they have come to America to do exactly that same thing. This is a final fight to the death. It's Is-slime against human civilization and human decency.
9 posted on 03/03/2005 10:02:40 PM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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To: Supernatural
Any country permitting Muslims to live there is asking for trouble. And they will find it.

Hooooo-RAH! Another great post. Another poignant truth! Tell it like it is, my friend!!!!!
10 posted on 03/03/2005 10:05:18 PM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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To: A CA Guy; af_vet_1981; ApesForEvolution; ariamne; BayouCoyote; blogbat; Bon mots; Camel Joe; ...

Pingster!


11 posted on 03/03/2005 10:06:32 PM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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To: Supernatural

As Mark Steyn wrote about yesterday, it is only a matter of time before Europe is swallowed by its Muslim population. Should serve as a warning to Bush to tighten immigration security.


12 posted on 03/03/2005 10:07:51 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: blam; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
BUZZARD OF ISLAM COMING HOME TO ROOST (AND CRAP) ON MERRY 'OLE ENGLAND - ping. (Those Brits - naive as the day is long. As if this is a big surprise.)

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"In this case, while I am very concerned about the Muslim community's sense of belonging, we do have to accept that the events around the Gloucester shoe bomber do show us that there are people within that community who misguidedly, and entirely in conflict with the values of Islam, are prepared to use violence against the United Kingdom.

13 posted on 03/03/2005 10:13:38 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 03/03/2005 10:18:56 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: blam

There must be two planet earths, I'm on one and so many of my fellow infidels are on the other. What does it take for them to get it? One or two nukes? will that do it? Think I'll have another beer.


15 posted on 03/03/2005 10:29:28 PM PST by Eighth Square (We've met the enemy - no doubt about that!)
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To: broadsword

Civilization vs syphilisation.


16 posted on 03/03/2005 10:32:39 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: broadsword
>>>>"The threat is most likely to come from those people associated with an extreme form of Islam, or who are falsely hiding behind Islam.<<<<<<


What? They are kidding right?

They are still trying to make us believe that this isn't islam?

This is all just a big misunderstanding?

The evidence proves otherwise.

17 posted on 03/03/2005 10:34:46 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie" Romans 1:25a)
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To: Happy2BMe

18 posted on 03/03/2005 10:35:35 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Zivasmate
Should serve as a warning to Bush to tighten immigration security.

But he WON'T! It's a Religion of Peace, Remember?
19 posted on 03/03/2005 10:38:13 PM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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To: jan in Colorado
"The threat is most likely to come from those people associated with an extreme form of Islam, or who are falsely hiding behind Islam." What? They are kidding right? They are still trying to make us believe that this isn't islam? This is all just a big misunderstanding? The evidence proves otherwise.

The "holy" Korap proves otherwise, clearly and distinctly and without any fancy interpretation. Having read the filthy piece of Korap, I KNOW!
20 posted on 03/03/2005 10:41:31 PM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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