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To: obnogs; BlackElk
Christian Shar'ia

Wish it were so. We'll get a liberal overweening all-controlling state, and the Christians will get the catacombs.

Please read Black Elk's post above yours. The conservative ideal is that individual sin is left in the domain of the church, subject to persuasion and shunning, but not prosecution. Intrinsic public evil, -- crimes against life and property are in the domain of the state. This ideal is not far from the libertarian ideal.

As the church is removed from the public life, the free society breaks down. It becomes necessary to legislate against sin. The conservative position becomes that sin should be properly identified and the church position of dominance in the public square restored, and the libertarian position, that ignores moral teaching, stops making any sense.

If spiritual awakening happens in America, liberty may still triumph. If not, we are facing a rearguard action and descent into a secularist-liberal hell.

632 posted on 03/04/2005 3:31:35 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex

But if "it becomes necessary to legislate against sin", won't the result be an "overweening all-controlling state".


636 posted on 03/04/2005 3:47:27 PM PST by obnogs
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To: annalex

Precisely!


650 posted on 03/04/2005 10:37:31 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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