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To: Gilbo_3

I didn't post and run from anything. I stand by what I said. I intended to say nothing else on this forum because frankly the responses come accross as demeaning and less then constructive.

You and others continue going back to the example of one incident. What you and others who continuously cite Columbine conveiniently leave out is that there was an armed security guard posted within the school and that he exchanged fire with the two students before any SWAT arrived. But because they used assault weapons the guard was overwhelmed with fire, ran out of ammo, and was not able to kill them. So your argument that a lone teacher with a small to medium caliber concealed pistol would probably have stopped two assault weapons-armed students is not really tenable in my view.

And you and others also cite the police response. Well I happen TO AGREE THAT THE COLUMBINE P.D. DID NOT RESPOND VIGOROUSLY ENOUGH. But again you also conveiniently leave out the fact that the SWAT had gotten word that the place was rigged to blow. So frankly I think their hesitation, if certainly NOT EXCUSABLE, is understandable. And the notion that I suggested in any way that a person is not responsible for themselves or not responsible for self-defense, is just plain daft.

I never knew any police "voluntarily disarmed" before entering a school. Now that is something that could be changed. I would suggest stationing a policeman at every school with a certain attendance or higher. That's my opinion. A policeman wears body armor, has a radio for instant communication, and is thoroughly trained in firing small arms. He also acts as a deterrent. And I never said a teacher couldn't keep a gun in their car.

If you want to argue, intellegently and respectfully, then by all means please do, but don't misrepresent what I say, dimiss my arguments as having "serious problems," and then complain when I leave the thread because I am being ridiculed for not falling into lock-step with you.


60 posted on 03/03/2005 3:29:40 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: Norman Bates
at first I thought you mustve posted to me ay accident, but I re-read your smarmy remarks and realized that you are just trolling, looking to argue absurd angles.

I gave you more than 'Columbine', but you obviously arent informed enough or dont care about the other scene i cited to realize that it was an actual event.

Furthermore, how do you rationalize that a lone cop would be any more prepared than the lone guard at columbine, while at the same time, saying that legal carry by whoever might be present in the school wouldnt have helped equalize the firepower?

Also, because you give some clown a badge, doesnt mean that theyre any more capable or safe with firearms, the reason I pondered why they are NOT disarmed when entering a school, like everyone else. theres plenty of examples of 'lost' weapons by cops, 'accidental' dishcharges etc, to maintain that simply because it IS a school, and kids & guns dont mix, that they SHOULD be disarmed.

Finally, lets just avoid the whole fact that it wasnt very long ago that students were allowed to bring their guns to school, for many reasons, and the problems didnt exist due to the guns.

Thats all I feel like typing right now...

61 posted on 03/03/2005 10:51:33 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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