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1 posted on 03/02/2005 2:55:27 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04
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There is no basis for removal under the present circumstances. While it is true that the Court attempted to buttress its conclusion with weak references to international law and standards, the basis for the opinion was its interpretation, strained as it was, of the 8th Amendment. This was a poorly written, poorly reasoned opinion.

Frankly, any time the Court is "creating" law, the opinions tend to be long, laborious, and often quite contorted. The reason for that is simple, the opinion is weak on Constitutional analysis.

This opinion was weak, and sad, but it is not the basis for removal. It is, however, the basis for igniting the political will to replace these jokers with scholars who can actually read the Constitution.
126 posted on 03/02/2005 6:09:16 PM PST by Iron Eagle
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Impeachment, nullification, interposition, and the use of Article III, Sec. 2 of the Constitution all need to be considered.

We need to hold these officials accountable through impeachment, recall, nullification, interposition and arrest where necessary.

I am so seek of this endless deference to judicial tyranny.

When oh when will some elected executive officer in some state or federal capacity, in fulfilling his constitutional duty to honestly interpet the constitution (federal or state) just disregard the unconstitutional rulings of any court and dare the legislature to impeach him for it? When will some legislature impeach just ONE judge for an unconstitutional ruling?

To say that the courts have the final word on the constitutionality of a law NO MATTER WHAT THEY RULE is to say that the system of checks and balances envisioned by the founders does not exist any more.

Alan Keyes gave the best summation of this issue that I've heard yet. He said that every branch of government has a duty to honestly interpret the constitution. If the president honestly feels the courts make an unconstitutional and lawless ruling, then the president should disregard that ruling and refuse to enforce the provisions that he felt were blatantly unconstitutional. If the Congress felt the president was wrong in this decision, then it was their duty to impeach him for it. If the electorate felt that the Congress was wrong for impeaching the president or the failure to impeach him, they can remove them at the next election, as well as the president for any presidential actions that they considered wrongful. Congress can and should impeach federal judges for blatently unconstitutional rulings that manufacture law.

Lest anyone consider this formula has a recipe for chaos, then I submit to you there is no chaos worse than an unchecked oligarchic Judiciary. We are not living under the rule of law when judges make law up to suit their whims has they engage in objective based adjudication.


132 posted on 03/02/2005 8:43:03 PM PST by DMZFrank
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If Congress will not regulate the Supreme Court by simple majority, as they have the power to do, what makes you imagine that they would impeach Justices by a 2/3 vote?


141 posted on 03/03/2005 8:48:29 AM PST by Jim Noble
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The Federalist No. 81

It may in the last place be observed that the supposed danger of judiciary encroachments on the legislative authority, which has been upon many occasions reiterated, is in reality a phantom. Particular misconstructions and contraventions of the will of the legislature may now and then happen; but they can never be so extensive as to amount to an inconvenience, or in any sensible degree to affect the order of the political system. This may be inferred with certainty, from the general nature of the judicial power, from the objects to which it relates, from the manner in which it is exercised, from its comparative weakness, and from its total incapacity to support its usurpations by force. And the inference is greatly fortified by the consideration of the important constitutional check which the power of instituting impeachments in one part of the legislative body, and of determining upon them in the other, would give to that body upon the members of the judicial department. This is alone a complete security. There never can be danger that the judges, by a series of deliberate usurpations on the authority of the legislature, would hazard the united resentment of the body intrusted with it, while this body was possessed of the means of punishing their presumption, by degrading them from their stations. While this ought to remove all apprehensions on the subject, it affords, at the same time, a cogent argument for constituting the Senate a court for the trial of impeachments.

144 posted on 03/03/2005 9:04:26 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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