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8 More Bugs Found In Firefox And Mozilla
TechWeb ^ | March 01, 2005 | TechWeb News

Posted on 03/01/2005 3:07:13 PM PST by holymoly

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To: holymoly

I just download it and it went right in to my old firefox! It says 1.0.1. No need to uninstall.


41 posted on 03/01/2005 6:11:40 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (W 1, Get Over It !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

On the other hand, IE has been around much longer and has a much larger user base (making it a bigger target). I still think that if something is transparent, it should be easier to hack (fishbowl vs. black box). That you don't observe it happening yet does not change the situation.


42 posted on 03/01/2005 6:28:07 PM PST by rbg81
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To: JeffAtlanta
mmmmm.......The download manager for FF is pretty weak....I prefer the way IE handles downloads.

I hate the way FF won't keep each instance downloading to the directory you point it to.  If you have two instances of FF open and set the 1st to download to one directory and the second to download to another, the next download on the first instance will go to the directory you pointed the second instance to.  IE remembers the correct directory for each instance of the browser.

FF can't kiosk the way IE does:  if you use autohide on your Start Bar and autohide on the browser toolbar, IE will allow you to go to the bottom of the screen with your mouse and the Start Bar will pop up --- FF stays in front of the Start Bar forcing you to use the Windows key or taking the browser out of kiosk mode to get the Start Bar to pop up.  I find that incredibly annoying.

On the otherhand, FF browses noticeably quicker than IE (personally, I don't think it's actually faster, I think it's the way that FF loads graphics).  FF is more robust than IE:  I can crash IE now and again but I have yet to lock up FF. 

Pop up blocking was never an issue with IE for me....I had a good way around it so I don't notice a difference between the two browsers in that regard.  But for the uneducated user, FF is far superior to IE in the pop-up realm.

FF also is able to remember picture filenames and doesn't convert them to "Untitled.bmp" the way IE often does.  The fact that MS hasn't yet solved this problem - and it's been a widely known problem since the first version of IE - is particularly damning of the company.

There's others but....you know: no program is perfect.

 

43 posted on 03/01/2005 6:31:20 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: rbg81

You also have to remember the size of some of the pieces of software. You're talking huge amounts of code. It's so easy to get lost and lose track of all the logic and miss vulnerabilities. Mozilla and Firefox are smaller and updated faster. Microsoft inspires attacks just because it's Microsoft. Kind of a pity.

They all have their own nice features.


44 posted on 03/01/2005 6:34:35 PM PST by royce4
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To: US_MilitaryRules
I did that with Opera - instaill the new without uninstalling the old. Under Add/Remove programs I now have two entries for Opera.

It doesn't seem to bother Windows or Opera, so it doesn't bother me. ;)
45 posted on 03/01/2005 6:47:39 PM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: royce4
You won't get any arguement from me. I posted "Chicken Little" for the Microsoft toadies, who gleefully forecast doom-and-gloom whenever a flaw or bug is reported in Mozilla or Firefox.

I haven't used IE in years. I have Mozilla, Opera and Off By One on both my systems. If I ever find another non-IE based browser, I'll probably install that as well.
46 posted on 03/01/2005 6:52:40 PM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: holymoly

OffByone?

When you downloaded Mozilla did you notice where the download came from? I think microsoft is taking IE dominance for granted. They are losing market share. They have most of it but they are still losing share.

I have to use IE but tend to use Netscape which is essentially Mozilla. I'll wait on Firefox. I hate using 1.0 or 1.01! I'll let you trailblaze for me first.


47 posted on 03/01/2005 7:02:58 PM PST by royce4
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To: holymoly

Google I hear is coming out with a browser too. I had to do research on it. Saw some screen shots of it. It looks nice. Open source sounds nice but all the bad guys can peer under the hood and see how to screw you up.

Look out for Google. They seem pretty good.


48 posted on 03/01/2005 7:05:39 PM PST by royce4
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To: royce4
Off By One

It's very small (can be run from a 3.5" floppy).
No install - just unzip the EXE and run it.
No Java, plugin support.
Cookies are stored in a single file, which can be deleted at any time.
It also hasn't been updated since (as I recall) 2002. (I've found a few sites it doesn't work with, but what the heck, it's tiny - and it's free.)
49 posted on 03/01/2005 7:13:15 PM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: royce4

Yea, I'd thought I read they'd lured some programmers away from the Mozilla/Firefox team. I've been anxiously waiting to see what they produce.


50 posted on 03/01/2005 7:15:32 PM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: inkling
Slightly off-topic... I have a Mac and currently use the dreaded IE, but would like to switch. What browser would you all recommend?

Use the mozilla based Safari that comes with your Mac OSX... Keep the IE around for those rare pages that don't comply with the HTML standards and use MS-HTML instead.

51 posted on 03/01/2005 10:19:39 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: John Lenin
Best advice is to use some unknown browser that the hackers don't target.

Lynx is never targeted.

52 posted on 03/02/2005 4:49:37 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Swordmaker

Hey, Swordmaker, I know this is an old thread, but Safari isn't based on Mozilla or the Gecko engine: it's a custom code job based on the Konquerer browser's KTHML engine.


53 posted on 03/14/2005 11:18:54 AM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

Tech Ping


54 posted on 03/14/2005 11:21:50 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: John Lenin
Best advice is to use some unknown browser that the hackers don't target.

Better yet, I just download the HTML as plain text and read it that way. Blasted banner ads still get in the way, though.

55 posted on 03/14/2005 11:23:36 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: inkling
I've played with Safari a bit.

Play with it more. It's a good browser, but not perfect by any means. The slowdowns drive me nuts and there is a lot of content out there that will simply spit Safari out as an unsupported browser.

The v0.8.2 Camino browser is pretty lean and mean.

56 posted on 03/14/2005 11:24:09 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Bahbah

Uninstall Firefox 1.0, and then download and install 1.01. Your preferences will still be there when 1.01 opens.


57 posted on 03/14/2005 11:26:07 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: inkling

I use Firefox on my OS-X laptop. It's a wonder. Safari is good to, though.


58 posted on 03/14/2005 11:27:04 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: inkling
How old is your Mac & what is it's OS? Safari is a fine browser that's been bundled for the last few years.

On my 9x machines I use Mozilla.

59 posted on 03/14/2005 11:37:33 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7; Glenn; Clara Lou

I have a G4 from '01 if memory serves (I'm at work right now). I just made the leap from OS 9 to the latest version of OS X a few weeks ago. Sounds like it's the time to leap to Mozilla as well. Thanks!


60 posted on 03/14/2005 12:09:24 PM PST by inkling
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