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Jews, Republicans and Guns: What is the Problem?
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership ^ | March 2005 | Aaron Zelman

Posted on 03/01/2005 10:24:29 AM PST by B4Ranch

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To: newsgatherer
Although the link is definately one sided, it is a great insight into the 'us vs them' mentality that the BATFags use everyday, on ordinary citizens.

God bless and keep all who fall prey to their ruthless attacks...

41 posted on 03/02/2005 11:40:43 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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To: B4Ranch
>> With "conservatives" like these, who needs liberals?

some things need pinging again...

42 posted on 03/02/2005 11:43:38 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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To: B4Ranch; squirt-gun
Jews voting as they do is a mystery,

Not really, as the article states, they MAY be concerned with actions, not lip service, to convince them that the 'other guy' is worthy of a change of voting 'habits' ...

43 posted on 03/02/2005 11:48:00 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I was thinking more along the lines of 'boo-fooers' although i understand our common disgust for them...


44 posted on 03/02/2005 11:54:10 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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To: Gilbo_3
Not really, as the article states, they MAY be concerned with actions, not lip service, to convince them that the 'other guy' is worthy of a change of voting 'habits' ...

I disagree, liberal Jews (Diane Feinnstein and Barbara Boxer for example) are quite in favor of gun control. These examples are very far afield from what Jews would study to get to know Bush better. From that point of view the article goes down hill. The author may have a good point about the BATF and Bush in particular is not cleaning house, except that he may put in better justices, (hope hope). But Jews are left wingers in the blue areas and they are way too concerned about towing the liberal line of diversity and PC to switch to Bush. Some each year reason things out, but not the secular city Jews. Jews that can be convinced to support the Palestinians over Israelis are lost causes. Perhaps more terrorist attacks close to home will switch them but I would not hold my breath.

45 posted on 03/02/2005 12:02:59 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Your points about urban area peoples, Jewish included,are excellant. However, I was thinking more along the linrs of religious faith holding peoples, and Boxer & Feinswine mentality types dony apply.

As I understand, it is clearly written in the Jewish faith, that self defense is required, not just accepted, so I would think that anyone who can see actions towards personal freedom, vs lip service, would shift eventually, all other things being equal.

Political socialists wont bother to weigh it out, or pay attention tho...unfrtunately I must agree...

46 posted on 03/03/2005 8:38:08 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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To: Gilbo_3

At our temple one High Holy Day season we had armed guards to protect our service. One couple whispered to my wife that they were glad to have armed guards there. (There had recently been an incident in LA, this was in the SF area). My wife whispered back that she would feel even better if we were packing too. Guess what, the conversation ended at that point.

Yes, self defense is a law. But we are talking about the 80% of Jews who are secular and care a lot more for the committee on acceptance of homosexuality, then on anything that would protect their families. They have completely bought in to the idea that a gun in the house is much more likely to kill of injure someone you love than protect you. They won't read anything else. There minds are closed. As time goes on, the strongest thinking Jews in the bunch will break out of this mindset. We did.


47 posted on 03/03/2005 9:08:44 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: B4Ranch
[ Why should Jew vote republican. he asks.?.. ]

Answer: for a little self-respect.. Yassers friends don't love you. Joseph Stalins spawn hate your guts.. In this world; if they hate Jews, the democrat party loves them, if they are left wing.. Left wing groups despise Jews universally, even left wing JEWISH groups..

Why should he vote republican.? If for no other reason then NOT to vote democrat would be wise.. Them folks don't like him at all..

48 posted on 03/03/2005 9:30:51 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

Glad to hear that some are willing to stand up for themselves, but it is disheartening to hear to so many Jews, after having been persecuted for so long, and continue to be so, would allow themselves to still be led to the slaughter...


49 posted on 03/03/2005 11:14:13 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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