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Homelessness Plagues Many U.S. Veterans
My Way News (AP) ^ | Feb. 28, 2005 | Vicki Smith

Posted on 03/01/2005 10:20:01 AM PST by MisterRepublican

FAIRMONT, W.Va. (AP) - Harleigh Marsh was tough enough to scrape ice from the frozen deck of a Navy aircraft carrier in the North Atlantic. Smart enough to strip and rebuild a cockpit. And responsible enough to maintain survival gear for pilots. So when he found himself homeless six years ago, he figured he could handle it.

Like many of the estimated 500,000 veterans who will become homeless at some point this year, Marsh had the "Army of one" mentality that the armed forces demand.

"When a squadron or something needs you, you don't ask questions. You never say no. You salute and you do the job," he says. "And when you get out, you don't want people telling you what to do."

Veterans account for nearly one-third of all homeless men in America, even though the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs says they comprise only 13 percent of adult males in the general population. In West Virginia, where Marsh now struggles to rebuild his life, one in nine people is a veteran - the highest per capita rate in the nation in the 2000 census.

Marsh, 48 and single, has a job at a nursing home but earns too little for a place of his own. For months, he's lived at Scott Place, a shelter overlooking a town of about 20,000 - the town where he spent several years of his childhood and the closest thing to home.

Marsh doesn't mind the lack of privacy in the men's quarters, a third-floor maze connected by doorless doorways, or sharing a 14-by-14 space. "In the Navy, we'd have nine to 12 people in a room this big," he says.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bs; bullsh; bums; homeless; totalbs; veterans

1 posted on 03/01/2005 10:20:02 AM PST by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican

500,000 homeless vets? What a load of crap.


2 posted on 03/01/2005 10:23:12 AM PST by Publius Scipio
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To: MisterRepublican
the estimated 500,000 veterans who will become homeless at some point this year

Oh Bull. Where does this number come from? Who's number is this? I don't believe it, either that or I'm "homeless" right now because I'm not in my own living room at the moment.

3 posted on 03/01/2005 10:23:31 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: MisterRepublican

>>Like many of the estimated 500,000 veterans who will become homeless at some point this year<<

Seems high, very high. Would like to know what the source of this statistic is.


4 posted on 03/01/2005 10:25:39 AM PST by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: MisterRepublican

Vicki Smith is a silly tw@t. How can any editor let this sort of dribble pass as responsible journalism?


5 posted on 03/01/2005 10:26:18 AM PST by x1stcav (Hooahh!)
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To: MisterRepublican
I am skeptical of the Associated Press. I know there are "homeless" veterans but whether this story accurately describes the problem is questionable.

It is also suspicious that this is the third AP "homeless" story, that I am aware of, in the past three days. Agenda?
6 posted on 03/01/2005 10:28:24 AM PST by MisterRepublican ("It’s my belief that (insert conspiracy), originated with Karl Rove and the White House.")
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To: lafroste

They must be elasticizing the definition to include brief transition periods when they leave the service and live with a relative until they find their own place. Otherwise we whould have 30 million homeless vets since WWII.


7 posted on 03/01/2005 10:28:33 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: MisterRepublican

"And when you get out, you don't want people telling you what to do."


No offense, but there's a big part of this guy's problem right there. If someone becomes so destitute that they are homeless (not by choice), personal decisionmaking played the biggest role in getting them there. Unless you run a private company, you will always have someone telling you what to do.

This guy doesn't like people telling him what to do? Here's another service saying that should help: "Suck it up and drive on".


8 posted on 03/01/2005 10:31:00 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: MisterRepublican
This seems to be an attempt to continue the drugged out societal reject stereotype that was pinned on Viet Nam vets by the likes of Kerry and to expand it to vets in general.
Mr. Marsh, who is used as symbolic of 'homeless vets' suffers from "depression, he was also taking drugs for a tumor on his forehead, polyps in his nose and hepatitis C."

Later the same character is quoted as opining "Marsh says veterans are difficult to reach, physically and emotionally. Many lack access to a newspaper, TV or computer. They have learned to do without."

Painting the usual picture of the vet as screwed up outsider. Earlier in the article is this classic "Veterans account for nearly one-third of all homeless men in America, even though the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs says they comprise only 13 percent of adult males in the general population. In West Virginia, where Marsh now struggles to rebuild his life, one in nine people is a veteran - the highest per capita rate in the nation in the 2000 census." Thus combining a statistic for which no supporting data is giving stigmatizing vets as society's losers along with an irrelevant note that WVA has the highest per cent-age of vets per capita of the 50 states. Meaning what? WVA is full of drugged out loser vets?

This is the same old stigmatizing, smearing, media view of veterans. The media populated by twits who cannot believe anyone 'normal' would voluntarily do what military people do can't figure veterans out and look for sly ways to smear and demean them while posing as sympathetic reporters.
9 posted on 03/01/2005 10:33:37 AM PST by robowombat
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What kind of agenda is this? Why don't we look at the number of homeless who attended public school, came from broken homes, or those who never should have been turned out of a Mental institution.


10 posted on 03/01/2005 10:35:47 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: MisterRepublican

Anyone ask to see his DD 214?

Oh yeah, still waitng for sKerry to sign that SF 180.


11 posted on 03/01/2005 10:35:51 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: MisterRepublican
Dude clearly hasn't done any research.
12 posted on 03/01/2005 10:41:24 AM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: Publius Scipio

Whatever the number, this has to be fixed. If you serve your country, we take care of you. That has been earned.


13 posted on 03/01/2005 10:42:44 AM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: doug from upland

Bad things frequently happen when we attempt to "fix" things which aren't problems in the first place.


14 posted on 03/01/2005 10:47:54 AM PST by Publius Scipio
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To: MisterRepublican
"He loved the military, particularly the travel. But when an officer told him to re-enlist because he'd be good at nothing else, Marsh heard a challenge."

Well, I guess he really showed that officer.

"One day I just said, 'I'm going down to Louisiana,'" he recalls, smoking a cigarette..

"He hasn't seen a dentist since 1996. Many of his teeth have shattered and blackened, and a cracked back molar causes constant pain."

So, he can afford cigarettes but not tooth paste? No sympathy for this whiner.

15 posted on 03/01/2005 10:54:47 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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This is disgusting. And, an old tactic to tarnish the military in general, and veterans in particular.
About 10 years ago, I ran across a similar story and was able to contact the writer. Through the course of seveal conversations I asked him how he knew they were vets. He said that they told him they were and that they had no reason to lie to him. I pointed out that they might prefer to be considered heroic veterans of a war rather than say they were failures, druggies, criminals, having mental health problems, or however they arrived at homelessness. That was the last conversation we had.


16 posted on 03/01/2005 10:55:33 AM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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Could it be that "Mr. REPORTING FOR DUTY" is in the middle of another 180.

What a pathetic loser. Don't the citizens of Massachusetts realize he is such an empty suit and a poor reflection on ALL of them?

They should simply feel ashamed.

17 posted on 03/01/2005 11:00:44 AM PST by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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"He hasn't seen a dentist since 1996. Many of his teeth have shattered and blackened, and a cracked back molar causes constant pain."

BS. I lived outside a town with a VA Domicilliary. We also had homeless vets in the area.

Each year, maybe twice a year they held a 'stand down' for a week or two, and ALL vets, 'homed', resident, or homeless, were welcome to come in, and recieve meals, basic medical & dental care, clothing, shoes, soap, shampoo, TOOTHPASTE & TOOTHBRUSHES, delousing, whatever other basics they needed. It was widely advertised, flyered, and word-of-mouthed by advocates & activists.

So, he can afford cigarettes but not tooth paste? No sympathy for this whiner.

You got it, Sherlock!

18 posted on 03/01/2005 5:40:03 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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