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To: supercat
The problem is that if evidence and witnesses that favored Michael were all viewed in the most favorable possible light, and those opposed were viewed in the worst possible light, there would be "clear and compelling" evidence. The fact that no reasonable judge would view Michael's evidence as favorably as Greer does, nor discount opposing evidence as thoroughly as Greer does, is not basis for appellate review.

I have heard that before, but never was convinced of it. In the Curzan case, the lower court and appellate court said to pull her tube based on clear and convincing. The MSC and USSC saw it otherwise at the time. Clear and convincing has precedent all the way to the top. The Florida State Consitition is not silent on this matter either.

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5,747 posted on 03/13/2005 12:22:40 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: bjs1779
I have heard that before, but never was convinced of it. In the Curzan case, the lower court and appellate court said to pull her tube based on clear and convincing. The MSC and USSC saw it otherwise at the time. Clear and convincing has precedent all the way to the top. The Florida State Consitition is not silent on this matter either.

Right, but all that happened in the Cruzan case was that the case was sent back to the same trial court judge, who was instructed that he needed to determine that evidence was clear and convincing. I don't recall the exact timeline in Terri's case, but I believe her parents did appeal on that basis, and the appellate court handed the case back to Judge Greer, who then decided that clearn and compelling evidence existed.

One fundamental problem with the appeals system is that it's predicated upon the assumption that judges are honest and reasonable. In a way, this makes sense, since an open acknowledgement that judges were not sometimes dishonest or unreasonable would open up a huge can of worms. On the other hand, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

5,748 posted on 03/13/2005 12:36:16 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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