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Best Original Song ''Al Otro Lado del Rio'' from The Motorcycle Diaries
My own | Corazon

Posted on 02/28/2005 1:23:40 AM PST by Corazon

Oscars Best Original Song

''Al Otro Lado del Rio'' from The Motorcycle Diaries

plagiarism?? it's not that original after all.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: al; best; del; lado; motorcycles; original; oscar; oscars; otro; rio; song
Best Original Song

''Al Otro Lado del Rio'' from The Motorcycle Diaries
    
  plagiarism?? it's not that original after all.




Clavo mi remo en el agua
llevo tu remo en el mío.
Creo que he vista una luz
al otro lado del río.

El día le irá pudiendo
poco a poco al frío.
Creo que he vista una luz
al otro lado del río.

Sobre todo, creo que
no todo está perdido.
Tanta lágrima, tanta lágrima,
y yo soy yn vaso vacío...

Oigo una voz que me llama,
casi un suspiro:
Rema, rema, rema!

En esta orilla del mundo
lo que nos es presa es baldio.
Creo que he visto una luz
al otro lado del río.

Yo, muy serio, voy remando,
y muy adentro, sonrío.
Creo que he visto una luz
al otro lado del río.




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USING DIFFERENT TRANSLATION MACHINE AT

http://www.humanitas-international.org/newstran/more-trans.htm

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Nail my oar in the water I take your oar in mine.  I believe that there am Vista a light to the other side of the river.  The day will be to him being able little by little to the cold.  I believe that there am Vista a light to the other side of the river.  Mainly, I believe that everything is not lost.  As much tear, as much tear, and I am yn empty glass...  I hear a voice that calls to me, almost a sigh:  It rows, it rows, it rows!  In this border of the world which is to us imprisoned he is baldio.  I believe that I have seen a light the other side of the river.  I, very serious, am rowing, and very inside, I smile.  I believe that I have seen a light the other side of the river.

Perdido está el andaluz
del otro lado del río.
-Río, tú que lo conoces:
¿quién es y por qué se vino?
Vería los olivares
cercaPerdido está el andaluz
del otro lado del río.
-Río, tú que lo conoces:
¿quién es y por qué se vino?
Vería los olivares
cerca tal vez de otro río.
-Río, tú que lo conoces:
¿qué hace siempre junto al río?
Vería el odio, la guerra,
cerca tal vez de otro río.
-Río, tú que lo conoces:
¿qué hace solo junto al río?
Veo su rancho de adobe
del otro lado del río.
No veo los olivares
del otro lado del río.
Sólo caballos, caballos,
caballos solos, perdidos.
¡Soledad de un andaluz
del otro lado del río!
¿Qué hará solo ese andaluz
del otro lado del río?
                                         tal vez de otro río.
-Río, tú que lo conoces:
¿qué hace siempre junto al río?edad de un andaluz


http://www.mundolatino.org/cultura/alberti5.htm


#LXXV Balada del andaluz perdido
                                          
                           

It lost is the Andalusian one of the other side of the river.  -I laugh, you that you know him: ¿who is and why he came himself?  It would see the olive groves
cercaPerdido is the Andalusian one of the other side of the river.  -I laugh, you that you know him: ¿who is and why he came himself?  It would see the olive groves
close perhaps of another river.  -I laugh, you that you know it: ¿what does always together al I laugh?  It would see the hatred, the war, close perhaps of another
river.  -I laugh, you that you know it: ¿what does alone together al I laugh?  I see its rancho of adobe of the other side of the river.  I do not see the olive groves
of the other side of the river.  Only horses, horses, alone horses, lost.  Solitude of an Andalusian one of the other side of the river!  What will do alone that
Andalusian one of the other side of the river?  Perhaps of another river.  -I laugh, you that you know it: ¿what does always together al I laugh? age of an Andalusian
one




                                                                                                                                             
   

   










                                                 

1 posted on 02/28/2005 1:23:41 AM PST by Corazon
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To: Corazon; NCjim
Thank you. My reaction to the Che Guevara moments at this year's Oscards are here at #7 NCjim's "Much more industry than entertainment" thread. What more can you tell us about reaction in Latin America to Hayek's busty praise for this plagerized tribute to a mass murderer?
2 posted on 02/28/2005 1:55:57 AM PST by risk
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To: Corazon

Senor Plow, no es macho,
Solamente un borracho...


3 posted on 02/28/2005 2:20:12 AM PST by dsc
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To: Corazon

The song seems to make a lot more sense in Spanish.

And I don't even KNOW Spanish.


4 posted on 02/28/2005 2:21:14 AM PST by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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yep, and all songs that have "I love you" in the lyrics are stolen from the original song that has "I love you" in it


5 posted on 02/28/2005 2:25:22 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: Corazon

I don't get what you're driving at.


6 posted on 02/28/2005 4:19:19 AM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

If you want to write a hit, call it "Jump."


7 posted on 02/28/2005 4:20:30 AM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

The song won as an "original reward" To me it was not original at all.

At polling point below the song only got 6% of the votes.

http://www.pollingpoint.com/results_022305.html


See below what Gloria Estefan had to face not too long ago. Palmieri's song was instrumental and the music for "Oye mi canto" was of concern in the music industry. Oscar's gave a reward as an original song, that was not original, was not understood by 99% of the public at the place to be able to judge it's merits for the reward.




UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS


FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT






No. 1403 August Term 1995


Argued: May 6, 1996 Decided: July 5, 1996


Docket No. 95-7660



X


EDDIE PALMIERI,


Plaintiff-Appellant,


- v. -


JOHN DEFARIA; RAFAEL PADILLA; RANDY BARLOW;
TEDDY MULET; MIKE SCAGLIONE and ROBERT RODRIGUEZ,


Defendants,


GLORIA ESTEFAN; SONY MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT INC.;
EPIC RECORDS, a division of Sony Music
Entertainment Inc., et al.,


Defendants-Appellees.



X


Before: FEINBERG, CABRANES and PARKER, Circuit Judges.
Plaintiff Eddie Palmieri appeals from a judgment of dismissal
entered in
the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York,
Richard
Owen, J., in favor of defendants-appellees. Ultimately Palmieri seeks
review
of the district court's in limine ruling excluding certain evidence. We
decline
to review this ruling.
Judgment affirmed.


BRIAN D. CAPLAN, New York, NY


(Goodkind
Labaton Rudoff & Sucharow LLP, Mark
S. Arisohn, Jonathan Gardner, of
Counsel), for Plaintiff-Appellant.


L. PETER PARCHER, New York, NY


(Parcher &
Hayes, P.C., Jonathan Liebman, Orin S.
Snyder, Jeffrey I. Carton, of Counsel),
for Defendants-Appellees.


FEINBERG, Circuit Judge:
Plaintiff Eddie Palmieri appeals from a judgment of dismissal
entered in
the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York,
Richard
Owen, J., in favor of defendants-appellees, the singer-composer Gloria
Estefan and the entertainment companies that distribute Estefan's music.
Ultimately Palmieri seeks review of the district court's in limine ruling
excluding certain evidence. For the reasons stated below, we decline to
review the merits of that ruling.
I. Background
In May 1991, Palmieri filed his complaint claiming copyright
infringement in violation of 17 U.S.C. § 106. Palmieri is a co-owner of
the
copyright in the song "Paginas De Mujer." Palmieri alleged that Estefan's
song "Oye Mi Canto" is substantially similar to "Paginas De Mujer," and he
sought to prove that prior to composing "Oye Mi Canto," Estefan had access
to "Paginas De Mujer."
In May 1995, defendants moved in limine "to exclude certain areas
of
[Palmieri's] proposed evidence" on the issue of Estefan's access to
Palmieri's
song. In an unpublished Memorandum Opinion, dated June 2, 1995, Judge
Owen granted the motion in part and denied it in part. The judge
determined
that Palmieri's proposed evidence of radio air play of his song, including
royalty statements based on estimated air play, was insufficient as a
matter of
law to infer access. Judge Owen also held that (1) evidence that two
associates of defendant Gloria Estefan possessed a recording of Palmieri's
song and (2) testimony of Jose Estefan, Gloria's brother-in-law, that the
song
was played at Estefan family gatherings, were not sufficiently probative
of
access.


Additionally, defendants sought to exclude Palmieri's evidence
that
approximately 40,000 copies of "Paginas de Mujer" were sold nationwide
prior to the time "Oye Mi Canto" was composed, and at least 2,000 copies
were sold in the Miami area, where Gloria Estefan lives. Judge Owen was
"unable to assess the propriety of . . . admissibility" of this evidence
on the
record before him. On this issue, he "den[ied] the motion in limine and
await[ed] the proffer of evidence, subject to a possible motion to
strike."
Thus, the district court expressly preserved for trial, albeit
conditionally,
Palmieri's evidence of access based on the alleged "wide dissemination" of
his song through record sales.


8 posted on 02/28/2005 7:00:34 AM PST by Corazon
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To: KneelBeforeZod

The song won as an "original reward" To me it was not original at all.

At polling point below the song only got 6% of the votes.

http://www.pollingpoint.com/results_022305.html


See below what Gloria Estefan had to face not too long ago. Palmieri's song was instrumental and the music for "Oye mi canto" was of concern in the music industry. Oscar's gave a reward as an original song, that was not original, was not understood by 99% of the public at the place to be able to judge it's merits for the reward.




UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS


FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT






No. 1403 August Term 1995


Argued: May 6, 1996 Decided: July 5, 1996


Docket No. 95-7660



X


EDDIE PALMIERI,


Plaintiff-Appellant,


- v. -


JOHN DEFARIA; RAFAEL PADILLA; RANDY BARLOW;
TEDDY MULET; MIKE SCAGLIONE and ROBERT RODRIGUEZ,


Defendants,


GLORIA ESTEFAN; SONY MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT INC.;
EPIC RECORDS, a division of Sony Music
Entertainment Inc., et al.,


Defendants-Appellees.



X


Before: FEINBERG, CABRANES and PARKER, Circuit Judges.
Plaintiff Eddie Palmieri appeals from a judgment of dismissal
entered in
the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York,
Richard
Owen, J., in favor of defendants-appellees. Ultimately Palmieri seeks
review
of the district court's in limine ruling excluding certain evidence. We
decline
to review this ruling.
Judgment affirmed.


BRIAN D. CAPLAN, New York, NY


(Goodkind
Labaton Rudoff & Sucharow LLP, Mark
S. Arisohn, Jonathan Gardner, of
Counsel), for Plaintiff-Appellant.


L. PETER PARCHER, New York, NY


(Parcher &
Hayes, P.C., Jonathan Liebman, Orin S.
Snyder, Jeffrey I. Carton, of Counsel),
for Defendants-Appellees.


FEINBERG, Circuit Judge:
Plaintiff Eddie Palmieri appeals from a judgment of dismissal
entered in
the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York,
Richard
Owen, J., in favor of defendants-appellees, the singer-composer Gloria
Estefan and the entertainment companies that distribute Estefan's music.
Ultimately Palmieri seeks review of the district court's in limine ruling
excluding certain evidence. For the reasons stated below, we decline to
review the merits of that ruling.
I. Background
In May 1991, Palmieri filed his complaint claiming copyright
infringement in violation of 17 U.S.C. § 106. Palmieri is a co-owner of
the
copyright in the song "Paginas De Mujer." Palmieri alleged that Estefan's
song "Oye Mi Canto" is substantially similar to "Paginas De Mujer," and he
sought to prove that prior to composing "Oye Mi Canto," Estefan had access
to "Paginas De Mujer."
In May 1995, defendants moved in limine "to exclude certain areas
of
[Palmieri's] proposed evidence" on the issue of Estefan's access to
Palmieri's
song. In an unpublished Memorandum Opinion, dated June 2, 1995, Judge
Owen granted the motion in part and denied it in part. The judge
determined
that Palmieri's proposed evidence of radio air play of his song, including
royalty statements based on estimated air play, was insufficient as a
matter of
law to infer access. Judge Owen also held that (1) evidence that two
associates of defendant Gloria Estefan possessed a recording of Palmieri's
song and (2) testimony of Jose Estefan, Gloria's brother-in-law, that the
song
was played at Estefan family gatherings, were not sufficiently probative
of
access.


Additionally, defendants sought to exclude Palmieri's evidence
that
approximately 40,000 copies of "Paginas de Mujer" were sold nationwide
prior to the time "Oye Mi Canto" was composed, and at least 2,000 copies
were sold in the Miami area, where Gloria Estefan lives. Judge Owen was
"unable to assess the propriety of . . . admissibility" of this evidence
on the
record before him. On this issue, he "den[ied] the motion in limine and
await[ed] the proffer of evidence, subject to a possible motion to
strike."
Thus, the district court expressly preserved for trial, albeit
conditionally,
Palmieri's evidence of access based on the alleged "wide dissemination" of
his song through record sales.


9 posted on 02/28/2005 7:01:29 AM PST by Corazon
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To: geopyg
The song seems to make a lot more sense in Spanish.

Not really. I thought the guitarist played well and Banderas sang well, but there wasn't any there there.

10 posted on 02/28/2005 7:05:15 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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