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I understand your reasoning, parents should not get a FRee pass., agreed.

In Oakland, gangs are problem number 1 or very high up there,, also, doesn't Oakland have the highest paroleee population in the state?

It seems to be a breeder ground for crime and criminals.. and not to mention the sideshows where innocents get killed just for having turned down a wrong street at night.

Thank GOD you posted me back, NormsRevenge; I'm growing spitballs off my hair by the moment posting with people who think Circumcision is Sexual Mutilation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And not only that! But now, it's because there was a conspiracy, a medical one, to stop boys from "masturbating" and that's why! they circumcized. whew.

Back to the real world... NormsRevenge, thank you for hearing me rant. I dug up an old article concerning Oakland, and Jerry Brown I thought you'd find a perfect capper to this recent event, published October 25, 2002, CCTimes:

Oakland residents call for more police

---snip (no pun on the anti-circ stuff..) Critics of a ballot initiative authorizing 100 new police officers to fight Oakland's rising murder rate are slamming the plan as a misguided and costly approach. "This is not going to really solve any problems," said former Black Panther Bobby Seale, who recently moved back to Oakland and appeared at a news conference Tuesday denouncing the initiative.