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To: 82Marine89
Because on many issues, they are far more conservative than Republicans. Where Libertarians and Republicans will never agree is the issue of government forced social engineering.

As for the border issue, it presupposes a lack of a welfare state. Illegal immigration wouldn't be as much of a problem if we didn't give illegals and legal immigrants free stuff once their little toes touch American soil.

22 posted on 02/27/2005 3:27:59 PM PST by jess35
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To: jess35
As for the border issue, it presupposes a lack of a welfare state. Illegal immigration wouldn't be as much of a problem if we didn't give illegals and legal immigrants free stuff once their little toes touch American soil.

I agree with you about the welfare state, but I cannot allow people of another nation to freely enter this country and destroy our sovereignty. We must have strictly enforced immigration laws.
25 posted on 02/27/2005 3:31:13 PM PST by 82Marine89 (U.S. Marines- Part of the Navy....The men's department.)
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To: jess35
Where Libertarians and Republicans will never agree is the issue of government forced social engineering.

Exactly why the (R)'s will be politically more successful than the (L)'s anyday.

27 posted on 02/27/2005 3:34:11 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: jess35
As for the border issue, it presupposes a lack of a welfare state. Illegal immigration wouldn't be as much of a problem if we didn't give illegals and legal immigrants free stuff once their little toes touch American soil.

There's more to it than welfare. Even without a welfare state, unlimited immigration would still drive down wages - thus destroying the wealth of the nation.

What many Libertarians don't realize is that we already have open borders - between the states within our country. If the standard of living in Mexico was closer to ours (as it is in Canada), then an open border there would not be as big an issue (as it is not with Canada). But even then, security requirements in the modern reality require guarded borders.

The article does a good job of stating my own opinions, as far as it goes. I would like to be a Libertarian, but they won't let me.

173 posted on 03/03/2005 2:17:06 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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