Posted on 02/27/2005 7:13:06 AM PST by TheBlackFeather
He's unable to travel because he refuses to present a government-approved ID
SAN FRANCISCO -- John Gilmore's splendid isolation began July 4, 2002, when, with defiance aforethought, he strolled to the Southwest Airlines counter at Oakland Airport and presented his ticket.
(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghpostgazette.com ...
I'm well aware that it is PC BS that causes these grannies to be searched. I'm saying that it is a waste of time and resources to do it while the known terrorists 'types' are walking on board without getting searched.
Everybody is still not being searched including the ones most likely to be the problem.
"The bigger more troubling question is if we need a system of internal passports. If so the debate and the regulations should be public."
Good question.
Is this an apt analogy?
The police dept has a mandate to keep the public safe. A serial killer has committed several murders.
The police chief issues an order to not speak publically about who is under investigation. He further issues and order to withold evidence about the crime. (Read, undisclosed regulations.)
Does the public have a right or even a need to know about these orders? Do we need to know who they're investigating?
What if the killer works for an airlines and the police are working with the FAA and airlines. Does the public have a right to know that they are trying to identify an employee they think might be a serial killer?
Should the police dept be required to disclose to the serial killer that they're looking at him?
We live in a time when a cab company or a pizza place may not come to a residence if they can't make an ID such as that afforded by caller ID.. No law, no disclosure ......just doing business and protecting workers. ;-)
Bought this little framed saying by T. Jefferson at Monticello:
"I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."
from a letter to James Madison.
Would Jefferson be labeled a radical today?
"This would be a straw dog."
It comes down to this. Does the Fed. Gov't have the Constitutional authority to regulate airlines?
Show me the "OFF" switch in the Constitution.
I've looked and have not been able to find it. Maybe my copy is too old. It even mentions 'war', but doesn't say that the same rules still don't apply when we are at war (or using force).
ROFLMAO
Do you REALLY believe that?
"respect individual rights."
"Do you REALLY believe that?"
I have direct personal knowledge even.
Of course I realize they're not perfect and we have the ACLU around to protect those rights. I'm sure you appreciate their efforts?
This has nothing to do with militias. If it did, that would be different. And how is letting in people from enemy states repelling invasions?
Oh yes, and of course showing id, whether phony or not, will keep you and eveyone else safe from harm on the flight. A search would insure the person was not carrying anything dangerous. How would ID impact safety one way or another? It is the Government that is being stupid here in requiring ID. ID is easily faked and if you can't fake it you bribe officials to issue you one as was done in CA recently.
None of the laws and regs that have passed and are used to intimidate and harass travelers at airports today are necessary or accomplish anything, they simply deprive us, all of us, of our freedoms.
As a great man once said, if you give up your freedom in the name of safety you deserve the tyranny you will certainly end up with.
Yes, they were screaming at each other over taxes (and at a rate so incredibly low by today's standards), but until they tried to take the guns, they were still just shooting their mouths off at each other. The colonists knew that if the guns were taken, they would have nothing to back up their mouths and the taxation and regulation would get worse. And we'd still be drinking tea, or more likely, German beer and speaking German today.
I don't fly, and was mildly entertaining the thought of taking Amtrak. You now need current ID. I don't know about Greyhound.
I didn't think a "/s" tag would be necessary. I was attempting to create some cognitive dissonance in the person to whom I was responding.
Quit being a jerk. You taken my comments out of context for your own purposes.
I was answering a specific question of another poster on a related topic.
Releasing the details of an investigation is totally different from a citizen being told what law he broke. Do want to be subject to arrest and not know the charges against you? Have you ever heard of the Bill of Rights?
" To people like this life is all about their PERSONAL rights....forget everyone else's rights"
Our Republic is about PERSONAL rights not a socialistic, nanny-state, herd mentality. We as free Americans now have to prove to some bureaucrat that we're worthy to spend our hard earned money to engage in commerce with a private air carrier. We are being told what to do not asked, that tells me we are free no longer. What's worse, goverment at all levels seems intent on subjugating the citizenry. Why do we have ex-KGB and Stasi generals working ion OUR Homeland Security department? These are not the actions of a benevolent government.
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