Queen 'Thinks Charles Has Put Gratification Before Duty' (Jug Ears deserves sympathy, not scorn)

The Telegraph ^ | February 27, 2004 | Andrew Alderson

[quidnunc]

The Queen has "distanced" herself from the wedding of the Prince of Wales to Camilla Parker Bowles because she believes that her son is putting personal gratification before duty, royal courtiers have disclosed.

The courtiers also say privately that the Queen is "lukewarm" about the marriage and is worried that it could tarnish the monarchy.

Buckingham Palace announced last Tuesday that neither the Queen nor Prince Philip would be attending the civil marriage ceremony at Windsor Guildhall on April 8 because they wanted to keep the occasion "low key".

The announcement, however, was widely interpreted as a snub even though the Palace said that the Queen and other members of the Royal Family would attend the service of dedication afterwards at St George's Chapel. The Queen is also giving a wedding reception at Windsor Castle.

The courtiers said yesterday that Prince Charles's private office had been outmanoeuvred by Buckingham Palace and that Sir Robin Janvrin, the Queen's private secretary, had tried to protect her from becoming involved in a "town hall marriage" which demeaned her own status. One said: "Robin is very clever. As soon as he sensed controversy, he did what he always does and wrapped the Queen in cotton wool to make sure that she didn't get damaged by events.

The courtier said that Sir Robin's intervention was symptomatic of the Queen's long-standing concern over Charles's relationship with Camilla.

"The problems of the past week go back many years. The Queen believes that the Prince of Wales has put his own gratification and interests before duty by pursuing his relationship with Camilla, and she can never forgive that."

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[GVnana]

Hewitt has denied that he is Harry's father, and stated for the record that Harry was a toddler when he and Diana first met.

[GVnana]

LOL! I'm not enough of a "royal-watcher" to debate the point. Just thought I'd let you know.

[plushaye]

On a related note (but a little late for Valentine's Day), here's a long lasting royal family love story that is rarely written about. These are excerpts from letters from a King of England to his Queen from the last century:

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"We suit each other admirably and I thank God every day that he should have brought us together...and people said I only married you out of sympathy and pity. That shows how little the world knows what it is talking about".

"Although I have often told it to you before, I repeat it once more, that I love you darling child, with my whole heart and soul and thank God every day that I have such a wife as you, who is such a great help and support to me and I believe loves me too."

"You know by this time that I never do anything by halves, when I asked you to marry me, I was very fond of you, but not very much in love with you, but I saw in you the person I was capable of loving most deeply, if you only returned the love... I have tried to understand you and to know you, and with the happy result that I know now that I do love you, darling girl, with all my heart, and am simply devoted to you. I adore you, sweet May. I can't say more than this".

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It's from the current Queen's grandfather King George V to his wife Queen Mary (May) of Teck. Looking at their photos, you wouldn't think they were so romantic.

She had been engaged to his elder brother, the heir to the throne, but he died suddenly, leaving her future plans in jeopardy. The royal family then arranged for her to marry the next heir, the younger brother. This, obviously worked out very well for them, although they were said to be too strict on their children including: the wimpy Edward VII who abdicated for Wallis Warfield Simpson, and the stammering weakling Bertie who was the Queen's father George VI. It's only because of the love of a good, strong woman (the late Queen Mother) that George VI became a good King. To me it's like Laura Bush and the President in the sense that Laura and the late Queen Mother were real 'rocks' for their husbands to lean on.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Don't miss this thread. There's something for everybody.

[Captain Peter Blood]

There ain't no way that family could be any more "Tarnished" than they are.
A lot of the mess that has befallen the reign of Lizzie II is all of the back door machinations of the late Lord Louis Mountbatten and his penchant for too much publicity and celebrity.
As the Uncle of Elizabeth he helped engineer her marriage to the penniless Prince Phillip and is in many ways responsible for setting in motion so much that is now wrong with this House of Royals.
This is a Royal Peyton Place that keeps on going and going with no end in sight. You could not write a better soap opera than is being played out in real life.
Poor Diana was but a pawn in the game to give Charles heirs and now Charles wants to marry his real and only true love, which if Queenie had allowed in the first place all would have been well.
The thing to do to make everything really legal is for the Monarchy to give up being head of the Church and that might solve a whole passel of problems.

[GVnana]

I don't watch the Oscars.

[Hank Rearden]

the Queen is "lukewarm" about the marriage and is worried that it could tarnish the monarchy.

We're laughing our asses off at these inbred bozos now; seems like the marginal cost in additional humor-factor is low.

Who's the father of that pinhead Nazi-prince, anyway?

[Captain Peter Blood]

By God lets bring back the Plantagenet's, at least they really were interesting and entertaining on a Grand Scale.

[Captain Peter Blood]

Why would you feel sorry for Prince Phillip? That guy has had his share of many mistresses over the years.
You certainly don't think that his and the Queen's was a Love match do you?

[Howlin]

The Queen believes that the Prince of Wales has put his own gratification and interests before duty by pursuing his relationship with Camilla, and she can never forgive that."

I don't think Charles will be king.

[Captain Peter Blood]

Well if the Queen lives as long as her Mother he might be in his 80's when his chance comes.

[sarasmom]

Go find a French board to spew your "wisdom".
Why are you here?

[oprahstheantichrist]

"I suspect that Camilla is not well. Charles is marrying her because she may not be around very long. Could be wrong. We'll see."

Yeah, I'd been thinking that too. That's about the age that heavy smokers get cancer.

[Republican Wildcat]

Just like the husband of the current queen isn't the king.

He doesn't have the title King, either.

[oprahstheantichrist]

The queen'a a smoker???

[Republican Wildcat]

Okay, that makes sense...so the current Queen's spouse didn't take (or wasn't given) the title King? Could he have had it (without being the monarch)?

[WestVirginiaRebel]

Someone should remind him what happened the last time the Frogs tied to tangle with the Brits...

Chuckles is a royal arse, and if there is anything to the theory that the Royal Family had Diana killed it will destroy the Monarchy.

[Republican Wildcat]

What does that have to do with what I posted?