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Queen 'Thinks Charles Has Put Gratification Before Duty' (Jug Ears deserves sympathy, not scorn)
The Telegraph ^ | February 27, 2004 | Andrew Alderson

Posted on 02/26/2005 7:35:11 PM PST by quidnunc

The Queen has "distanced" herself from the wedding of the Prince of Wales to Camilla Parker Bowles because she believes that her son is putting personal gratification before duty, royal courtiers have disclosed.

The courtiers also say privately that the Queen is "lukewarm" about the marriage and is worried that it could tarnish the monarchy.

Buckingham Palace announced last Tuesday that neither the Queen nor Prince Philip would be attending the civil marriage ceremony at Windsor Guildhall on April 8 because they wanted to keep the occasion "low key".

The announcement, however, was widely interpreted as a snub even though the Palace said that the Queen and other members of the Royal Family would attend the service of dedication afterwards at St George's Chapel. The Queen is also giving a wedding reception at Windsor Castle.

The courtiers said yesterday that Prince Charles's private office had been outmanoeuvred by Buckingham Palace and that Sir Robin Janvrin, the Queen's private secretary, had tried to protect her from becoming involved in a "town hall marriage" which demeaned her own status. One said: "Robin is very clever. As soon as he sensed controversy, he did what he always does and wrapped the Queen in cotton wool to make sure that she didn't get damaged by events.

The courtier said that Sir Robin's intervention was symptomatic of the Queen's long-standing concern over Charles's relationship with Camilla.

"The problems of the past week go back many years. The Queen believes that the Prince of Wales has put his own gratification and interests before duty by pursuing his relationship with Camilla, and she can never forgive that."

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(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: princecharles; royalwedding
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To: TonyRo76
TonyRo76 wrote: What have the Windsors ever done that hasn't tarnished the monarchy? Sheesh.

George VI and Queen Elizabeth (the present queen's mother) did the monarchy proud during WW II in general and The Blitz in particular.

21 posted on 02/26/2005 8:53:47 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Vicomte de Valmont
Enjoy, you cheese eating surrender monkey
22 posted on 02/26/2005 8:53:56 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (No morality can be founded on authority., even if the authority were divine - Sir Alfred)
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To: quidnunc

The Present Queen's mother was also a Queen Elizabeth? How is the current Queen then not Queen Elizabeth III?


23 posted on 02/26/2005 8:55:47 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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royal courtiers have disclosed

I think the "source" of the information (not necessarily the newspaper) should be highlighted in every thread title.

24 posted on 02/26/2005 8:57:17 PM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: quidnunc

She believes what? Cammila for "pleasure"?

Boy do I feel sorry for Prince Phillip.


25 posted on 02/26/2005 8:57:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Republican Wildcat wrote: The Present Queen's mother was also a Queen Elizabeth? How is the current Queen then not Queen Elizabeth III?

The queen M=mother was a queen consort, not a queen royal

When they speak of the princess royal they're talking about Princess Anne rather than the wife of one of her brothers.

26 posted on 02/26/2005 9:00:51 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Al Simmons

I suspect that Camilla is not well. Charles is marrying her because she may not be around very long. Could be wrong. We'll see.


27 posted on 02/26/2005 9:01:38 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Goodgirlinred

Diana was a tramp. Case closed.


28 posted on 02/26/2005 9:01:55 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Why can't ordinary americans elect the President? Why do the electors have to go to college?


30 posted on 02/26/2005 9:05:57 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (No morality can be founded on authority., even if the authority were divine - Sir Alfred)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Because her mother wasn't the monarch. Her father was. Just like the husband of the current queen isn't the king.


32 posted on 02/26/2005 9:09:06 PM PST by xp38
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To: quidnunc
Ask the 13th Earl of Gurney about that.


34 posted on 02/26/2005 9:10:01 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: rogator

OK. I apologize for the last post. The Schism between the East and West churches is a complicated matter, and did not completely occur in 1054 (the date usually used). Reasons for it were poilitical as well as spiritual. Perhaps more political.

I don't know off-hand how big a role the Catholic Church's rejection of married priests around this time affected the Schism (the Orthodox obviously disagreed).

I suspect it was hardly the major cause of the split, but one of those thorny issues driving the two sides apart.

Is that more accurate?


35 posted on 02/26/2005 9:10:38 PM PST by Al Simmons (4-time 'W' voter, 1994-2004.)
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To: quidnunc
is worried that it could tarnish the monarchy.

The Queen has gone beyond the looking glass.

36 posted on 02/26/2005 9:12:12 PM PST by Torie
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To: quidnunc
royal courtiers have disclosed

The thought of having people like that as my "friends" makes me shudder.

39 posted on 02/26/2005 9:18:12 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: Al Simmons

The Queen might have objected to Charles marrying Camilla in 1972. She comes from what is considered by royalty as a 'bad stable' i.e family. Her married great-grandmother was the mistress of King 'Casanova' Edward VII, and claimed at one time that her daughter was actually the king's. This would have made Charles and Camilla some kind of cousins if it had been true. Camilla's grandmother was involved in a lesbian society scandal. Only her mother seemed to live a quiet life. Camilla herself started an affair with Charles because of her great-grandmother being Edward VII's mistress. By the way, that lady was a great society beauty, which Camilla is not, and was invited by Edward VII's accomodating wife (Queen Alexandra) to be at his deathbed.
Such are the weird ways of the monarchy.

Camilla has never been a moral woman, and Charles is known within the Royal Family to be a very weak man. They deserve eachother.


40 posted on 02/26/2005 9:19:36 PM PST by plushaye (President Bush: W-2-4-4!! Thank-you voters of America. Thank you GOD for choosing him!)
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