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Lost oaths, lost jobs?
colorado daily ^ | february 26, 2005 | JOSEPH THOMAS and MATT WILLIAMS

Posted on 02/26/2005 7:21:58 PM PST by ken21

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1 posted on 02/26/2005 7:22:00 PM PST by ken21
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"The loyalty oath is a part of the Colorado Revised Statutes, which requires professors, teachers, and instructors at all state colleges and universities to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of Colorado."

it's pretty obvious that if one does not want to sign this, then one is not an american.


2 posted on 02/26/2005 7:25:02 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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To: ken21

I guess asking him to pledge allegiance to the flag is out of the question,too.


3 posted on 02/26/2005 7:25:22 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: ken21

If they have a problem with the US Constitution, let them seek employment elsewhere. They could start their own university.


4 posted on 02/26/2005 7:27:20 PM PST by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: gcruse

i've never understood the reasons of people who do not sign.


5 posted on 02/26/2005 7:27:39 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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To: JennysCool; VOX9; SkyPilot; Mad_Tom_Rackham

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6 posted on 02/26/2005 7:31:14 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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Levitt said he didn't want to re-sign a faculty loyalty oath that CU administrators are trying to ensure is signed by all current CU-Boulder faculty.

Why not? Is his arm broken? Will it cause too much pain? More pain than grading all those essays from the students? Poor, poor pitiful professor!

7 posted on 02/26/2005 7:33:31 PM PST by Ken522
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8 posted on 02/26/2005 7:34:40 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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"To my mind it was simply a form of public humiliation on the part of the faculty making them kiss the ring of the Pope and let them know who's boss, to intimidate them and get them in line, all of that business," Levitt said.

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They ARE the boss dummy. And WE, the tax payers of Colorado, are THEIR boss. And by the way, WE are pissed. Boulder isn't the only town that pays taxes that go in part toward CU. You might have to leave Boulder county from time to time to understand how most people view your beautiful city.


9 posted on 02/26/2005 7:38:23 PM PST by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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10 posted on 02/26/2005 7:39:30 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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To: mad puppy

Do you suppose he thinks that signing it is meaningless if a traitor like Ward Churchill signs it and gets away with what he is doing? Just a thought.


11 posted on 02/26/2005 7:47:38 PM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: mad puppy; Chieftain

Hey.. they haven't gone far enoough!
How about a random urinalysis for illegal substances?
A lie detector test?
There are many employers who require those tests....in the private sector. If I, as taxpayor, am paying your salary, I want to be sure you don't have a problem with "the constitution", you're not on illegal drugs ( that way we taxpayors get a Workmen's Compensation discount) and even Radio shack asks for a polygraph to avoid theft.

Go become an actor or writer if these things snub your sensibilities. Hey Professor...consider this is your tiny bit of touching Reality.


12 posted on 02/26/2005 7:48:55 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Don't want no Taliban in my country !)
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To: ken21
Signing the oath of allegiance is no different than signing a non-compete clause for any corporation. If you don't or won't sign a non-compete, you're either not hired or fired.

BTW, if you're going to comment to a poster, it is best that you click the ole reply prompt and then TYPE something.

13 posted on 02/26/2005 7:51:09 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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"I base everything I do on the clear principles of constitutional law, and from my point of view, beginning with the U.S. Constitution, everything has to conform to that, including the Colorado Constitution," Churchill said. "As far as I'm concerned, the U.S. without attribution ripped off a big chunk of that Constitution from us," Churchill said.

By "us," Churchill said he meant Native Americans, specifically, the six nations of the Iroquois Confederacy.

could someone explain what churchill means?


14 posted on 02/26/2005 7:57:06 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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Heck, add in what I have to submit to, which amounts to a "peer review" every quarter, where I am observed doing my job (I'm a corporate trainer) by my peers, and they fill out evaluations of how well I'm performing my duties. Would be nice to see these leftists have to undergo peer reviews by the one or two conservative professors on campus, to be certain they're not indoctrinating young minds, but are instead simply teaching their classes. Of course, they'd scream "academic freedom!" at the top of their lungs, were that to occur.
15 posted on 02/26/2005 7:57:14 PM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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we all have had to submit urine tests, sign statements, ... and we all pay taxes to support these professors.

but we do not have tenure. we can be fired, and are fired routinely.


16 posted on 02/26/2005 7:59:50 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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Question: Is anyone else offended by this professor's anti-Catholic remark? I just want to use the left's tactics against.


17 posted on 02/26/2005 8:04:15 PM PST by jjmucr
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i guess you need an anti-catholic defamation league.


18 posted on 02/26/2005 8:10:39 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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To: ken21

More revisionist history by Native activists.


http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3380/is_199803/ai_n8117838
During the U.S. Bicentennial, when academics and nonacademics replowed virtually every aspect of the American founding, a few nonhistorians claimed that the Iroquois Confederation was a powerful influence on the Articles of Confederation, the U.S. Constitution, or both. Historians who looked into the matter quickly concluded that such claims were ill-founded.(1) Those who sought to include Native Americans in American constitutional history, by framing the matter the way they did, chose the wrong grounds for seeking inclusion. The Iroquois Confederation was important not for its ...

Or, try this:

http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_a6.html

Q103. "I have heard that the U.S. Constitution is based on a document called the 'Iroquois Confederation'. Is this true, and if so what parts of the Constitution came from this document?"

A. The U.S. Constitution is not based on that of the Iroquois Confederation - but some of the delegates to the Convention knew of the Confederation (notably Benjamin Franklin) and the two documents share many concepts, as do many constitutions. The Five Nations was a federal-style system, and it shared that with the U.S. You can find it online, though it is slightly difficult reading - the Indians spoke often in concept and metaphor.

Find a copy here: http://tuscaroras.com/pages/history/iroquois_constitution_1.html.




19 posted on 02/26/2005 8:15:20 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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interesting. thanks.

apparently churchill distorts this connection for his personal gain.


20 posted on 02/26/2005 8:25:20 PM PST by ken21 ( warning: a blood bath when rehnquist, et al retire. >hang w dubya.< dems want 2 divide us.)
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