Posted on 02/26/2005 4:45:01 PM PST by DannyTN
Let's see; life on earth is complex, therefore it was designed by something even more complex--God. God is complex and so must have been designed by something even more complex--superGod. Supergod is complex and so must have been designed by something even more complex--MegaGod. Megagod is complex....
I am not trying to make any links but just listening to the news. The BTK killer was president of his church and described as a "holier than thou" type of person.
The evolution ping list has nearly 250 names now. I'm aware of three or four who have declared themselves to be atheists. The rest either: (a) don't discuss religious issues in science threads: (b) have declared that they see no conflict between religion (when properly understood) and evolution (this is the Pope's position); or (c) have said that they're theistic evolutionists. One has said he's a deist (maybe a couple of others have said that too).
As a married father of two, devout official in his Lutheran congregation, one-time Cub Scout leader, and by-the-book code enforcement officer in his hometown of Park City, Kan., Dennis L. Rader appears from the outside to be the least likely candidate for serial killer."I never would have guessed in a million years," said Carole Nelson, a member of the Christ Lutheran Church, where Rader served as an usher and head of the church council.
But the respectable profile that emerged after Rader was named Saturday by police as Wichita's notorious "BTK" killer, responsible for at least 10 murders since the 1970s, was no shock at all to experts who track the diverse collection of psychopaths and psychotics who have written their names in blood across the American crime landscape.
"Nothing about this surprises me," said Katherine Ramsland, a professor of forensic psychology at DeSales University in Pennsylvania. "A person diagnosed as psychopathic would be chameleonic. They know the right behavior, the right words, but they don't feel anything. They are able to compartmentalize. They can live their lives sincerely, and also be out there killing, because they set those parts apart."
Indeed, some noted, the roles he played in his life may have helped him escape attention by blending in, and also let him exercise on a small scale the appetite for power and attention he allegedly indulged in his killings.
"Being a Cub Scout leader and a church leader would have been enjoyable," said James Alan Fox, a criminal justice professor at Northeastern University in Boston and author of "Extreme Killing," a book on serial killers. "He was the center of attention. He had authority."
This may be a feature of the YEC'ers.
Creationists did not work refuting Piltdown. As many (if not all) Creationists reject both radioactive dating and evolutionary theory, it's not evident what basis they have for such a rejection.
Well, yeah.
Well, yeah.
There is hope yet. More and more (after reading Meyers) are now accepting the age of the earth to be billions of years.
It's the observation that in all functionally integrated complex systems where the cause is known a designer is involved.
Nobody has observed the design of a biological system.
So if life is created in a lab, ID is established? The point is that the biological systems resemble known designed systems. The solution is to declare the existence of God (as Bacon did) then proceed from there. The stakes become much less culturally dangerous and much less time is wasted in silly arguments.
If we had done that a few centuries ago, we would still be believing that the sun transversed above the stationary, flat earth.
Meyers has nothing to do with it. It's following information where it leads. The decay of isotopes into daughter elements has been established with a consistency (unlike the evolution of fruit flies into bees).
But I'm not laughing at the YECers. They have a faith and they are trying to find a science to back it up. That's a strategy that has reaped benefits before -- think Pasteur.
And It's certainly not beneficial to chase intelligent Bible-believing young Christians away from science by demanding orthodoxy -- just so long as they can articulate the arguments for Old Earth.
And, maybe, before the throne of judgement, God is going to say, "You know, they were right. This is how it was done." Fine by me. The age of the Earth is really not that important.
You really are pretty weak on history, aren't you?
No. Not an expert, though. But, please point out where I erred.
They have faith in the false science of the creationist propagandists and have no interest in true science.
And It's certainly not beneficial to chase intelligent Bible-believing young Christians away from science by demanding orthodoxy -- just so long as they can articulate the arguments for Old Earth.
I would say that the YEC'ers are the ones chasing young Christians away from science by demanding orthodoxy.
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Your "flat earth" bogeyman is a fiction. Most knew the world wasn't flat -- especially those who had some reason to think about it one way or the other -- like sailors.
Did you just make that up?
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