RE: "Are you a Christophobe too?"
Uh, no. I'm a Christian myself, one of the God will judge whom He chooses to judge, stay out of other people's business here on Earth variety.
Christophobe? Heavens, no. But I do think that Christians and gays (and the two are not mutually exclusive either) here in America should either try to live in peace and harmony, or leave each other the hell alone.
RE: "I suggest just because you don't care for some of those who claim to speak for it that you don't automatically throw out the baby with the bathwater"
Misdirection on your part. It's Alan Keyes who threw the baby out with the bathwater...HIS baby.
It's Keyes who let his hatred of homosexuals in general lead him to betray the affections of his own blood. What are we still here for if not to procreate and perpeuate our species, and await the return of Christ the best way that we can manage to? Children are our cruel species reason for being in the first place, and Keyes turned on his own child so that he could save public face with his more radical supporters. That's disgusting, whatisthetruth.
That's ugly.
Your post is disgusting, and ugly.
Hatred of homosexuals? I see a man the recognises God's law and loves his daughter enough to show her that he cares about how she lives in accordance to that law. Sometimes you have to do tough love.
I will relate this to a personal story about myself. I went through a stage of rebellion myself and turned to drink and party and late nights. My mother (she raised us three kids by herself) warned me that I was not to do those things while living under her roof. One night I came home late around 2 am and the house/gate was locked. There was a note on the gate, that basically said, "you no longer live here". I now understood that my mother meant business, I begged her forgiveness (slept in the car) and she forgave me. I never did those things again under her roof. She didn't turn me out because she hated me, she loved me with all of her heart. But she raised me to love the Lord the best she could and that was her value system.
You say you're a Christian but your language and attitude says different. It's your type of behavior that turn people off from true Christianity if in fact you really believe you're Christian.
You seem to have an underlying hostility for Keyes that has nothing to do with Christian interpretation of Scripture. God did not allow the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah to live in peace and harmony, and neither should we.
Know them by their fruits!
Christophobe? Heavens, no. But I do think that Christians and gays (and the two are not mutually exclusive either)
Homosexual Christians?!? Impossible, you're either one or the other, what about Christian prostitutes, Bank robbers? Murderers?
My friend you're sorely deceived! Moses, all the old testament prophets, John the Babtist, Jesus, Peter, Paul, and everyone else right on down the line preached REPENTANCE!
Misdirection on your part. It's Alan Keyes who threw the baby out with the bathwater...HIS baby.
Baby?!? The young lady is an adult! Furthermore, she's a self professed "homosexual anarchist" with no respect for her Father (earthly or heavenly)
You've been deceived and indoctrinated with homosexual theology. You're ready to pounce on and upbraid any "true Christian" that stands for truth and upholds Gods immutable holy standards.
Homosexual Theologians teach that if the Levitical law against homosexuality still stands, then the dietary prohibitions on eating lobster, rare steak, rabbit, and so forth also still stands. Finally, they say, if the law against Homosexuality is reinstated, then the punishment of death by stoning is still valid.
Always look at the context of a verse in order to interpret it's meaning. In Leviticus 18, homosexuality is one of three sins mentioned, each given equal precedence as sinful. In order, God condemns child sacrifice (shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire), homosexuality (shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind), and bestiality (Neither shalt thou lie with any beast).
God then groups all three sins under the same warning: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you. In other words, God said "I destroyed the other nations that used to be in this land because of these sins, and the same warning applies to you"!
IF we are to say that homosexuality was given equal billing with child sacrifice and bestiality, and IF we are to believe that homosexuality is now acceptable to God in this current age, then we must believe that child sacrifice and bestiality are also acceptable in our current age. You cannot have it both ways: either homosexuality, bestiality, and child sacrifice are forever sinful abominable acts in God's sight, or all three are acceptable "alternative lifestyles".
A conservative, common sense interpretation of Leviticus 18 demands that we understand that all three acts were and are sinful in God's sight, contrary to His Will for mankind.
Leviticus 20 is even more specific. The sins listed as forbidden are, in order, adultery (adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death), incest (man that lieth with his father's wife), non related incest (man lie with his daughter in law), homosexuality (man also lie with mankind), and intra-family fornication (man take a wife and her mother). All are given equal billing, all are equally evil in God's eyes. If homosexuality was only temporarily forbidden, then we can conclude that incest between parent and child is now acceptable. How foolish! None of these sins were temporarily forbidden, all were and are abominations in God's sight.
As to the Homosexual theologian charge that the dietary laws would have to be enforced if we enforce the Levitical code against homosexuality, this is mere smoke and mirrors.
First, the dietary laws are not even represented in these Bible texts. Second, the dietary laws were just that, dietary laws, they were not moral laws (which the above texts represent).
God Himself rescinded the dietary laws for the sake of the Gentiles (Acts 10.14-15). But He never rescinded the command against these sins, in particular, the sin of homosexuality.
Finally, the reason that homosexuality (like adultery and incest) is no longer a sin that you must be stoned for is that we live in the era of Grace. Christ paid the penalty for all sin on the Cross of Calvary, even the sin of the homosexual.
In this era we do not stone sinners, we preach the Gospel of Christ to them.("REPENT" "GO AND SIN NO MORE") The homosexual, like the adulterer, needs the salvation that Christ can bring. They do not need to be stoned, they need to be saved so that they can "go and sin no more".