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To: Sam the Sham
Your blanket statements,about what life in America was for blacks,prior to 1965,are 100% incorrect and easily refuted.

America has treated more people,than just blacks,badly. The Scots-Irish were indentured servants and treat equal to the earliest black slaves...that is to say terribly.The Shepardic Jews joined with their Christian brothers to treat the new immigrant German Ashkenazim Jews badly,who,in turn,turned up their collective noses at the Russian and Polish Jews who emigrated to America in the early 20th century. But ALL Jews were kept out of most colleges,when Paul Robeson went to Rutgers,without affirmative action of any kind.

Irish and Italian immigrants were treated as badly,or worse, than blacks were at that time.

And there was NOTHING "magical" at all about the year 1965,which has all of us wondering why you keep using that particular date to mean/mark anything. There were mixed marriages,which did NOT result in lynchings nor anything else untoward,decades prior to that year,in places like N.Y. and Jersey and Chicago.

In the 1950s and even earlier,upper middle class blacks were going to elite Northeastern boarding schools and colleges.

It is you and you alone,who are spreading this constant vision of America the dreadful,America the awful, where blacks were routinely degraded,if not worse,until that "blessed" year,1965;which is not true at all. And even if it were,that was 40 years ago and things have certainly changed mightily.Yet,you post as though Sam Legree was still whipping the backs of slaves and that it is some sort of horror that Hollywood isn't making movie after movie with a black leading man and a white leading lady. You have forgotten about "GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER",I guess;or are ignoring it,because it just doesn't fit your agenda.

140 posted on 02/26/2005 10:37:14 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

What nonsense you always talk !

What made the black experience unique was that assimilation was obviously impossible. A Jew could change his name from Greenberg to Green. Or even Kerry. A black person would always be black and therefore immediately recognizable as such. No other minority in American history was ever the target of deliberate evil or singled out for the level of sheer viciousness as blacks were. You babble about the Scotch Irish. Tell me, did anyone ever have an entire ideology about the innate inhumanity and depravity of Scotch Irish ? Was a "Jim Crow" ideology ever created to freeze Scotch Irish into place as a permanent subject population ? Or any other minority for that matter ?

And there is no reason to pretend that a token black of outstanding ability here and there was any proof of American "colorblindness". To live as a free man, Paul Robeson had to go to Europe as often as possible. As was common for so many black Americans of his time.

When you talk about that stupid movie you are being downright silly. The entire point of GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER was that Sidney Poitier was black. That was the entire crisis, the entire plot, the entire problem. And while we're at it Katherine Houghton's career obviously ended up alongside Mai Britt's and Joanna Shimkus'. Hardly a sign of normal race relations, in which "boy meets girl" is taken for granted.


142 posted on 02/26/2005 10:55:43 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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