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To: schu
***I love Cheney (him and Rummy are our current times Marshall and Truman IMHO)***

No offense, but PLEASE do not compare anyone to Truman, that is unless you're insulting them.

HST was a 2nd 3rd 4th rate political hack who...

  1. Followed through on the giveaway of Eastern Europe to Stalin which subjugated those poor souls to 50 years of Communism.
  2. Literally gave Asia to the Communists, and specifically China by abandoning Chiang Kai-Shek.
  3. Was oblivious to the infiltration of Soviet spies in the US government, some working directly in the White House. In fact he IGNORED the intel to that effect given to him by the FBI.
  4. Was absolutely weak on the spread of communism. Which gave the North Koreans the impression that he would do 'squat' if they invaded the South.
  5. Then after CAUSING the Korean War, the SOB limits the military targets and 'fighting' NOT to win.
  6. Oh he also reneged on promises (lied) to Ho Chi Minh regarding France and their little empire, which ultimately led to the Vietnam War.

This MSM fallacy and propaganda about 'give em hell Harry' must end. The only Hell he gave was to people in Eastern Europe, Asia and the USA - you know, basically the entire world.

As such, I personally believe that POS should be dug up, tried for treason, shot and dumped in a swamp.

22 posted on 02/26/2005 7:26:21 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Condor51
Good post on Truman. I agree.

Harry was directly responsible for the fact that my entire generation lived its active productive life in the context of the Cold War. And the current geopolitical climate is a direct follow on result.

25 posted on 02/26/2005 7:38:12 AM PST by David
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To: Condor51
I understand your disdain for Harry Truman, unfortunately IMHO he was a victim of the times, less so of his policies. The US and the world was in no mood (much less capable) for another war, against communism or anyone else, the had seen enough. Harry certainly deserves some criticism, but not sure anyone would have been able to overcome the issues, hindsight is usually 20/20.

Harry did act decisively to end WWII by approving the use of atomic weapons against Japan. By this action alone, he probably saved 1 million US casualties, likely including my Dad as he was with the 5th Armored in Europe and would have been deployed to Asia.
34 posted on 02/26/2005 8:16:36 AM PST by schu
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To: Condor51

Don't keep everything all bottled up. If you've got something on your mind, let it out. :) Couldn't agree with you more.


46 posted on 02/26/2005 9:15:10 AM PST by DC Bound
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To: Condor51
And on the other hand, Marshall's "greatness" is a myth as well. One only needs acquaintance with his reall role in the Army prior to and during the war. Then who was the real author of the directed aid called the Marshall Plan. It was actually the GOP who required that Marshall's plan which was carte balnche to all nations indiscriminately, was in the end focused so as to rebuild free nations.

The myths of the MSM and the Academic Left are legion and their danger is that they become like the air and secretly permeate all.

57 posted on 02/26/2005 10:03:14 AM PST by ontos-on
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