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Posted on 02/26/2005 6:55:28 AM PST by gopwinsin04
What are we paying these guys for..
"an Alcoholic that buys a tavern, or marries into a family that owns the local liquor store....."
That's aperfect comparison Hoosiermama, coming from a recovering alcholic who purposely found a great job managing the bar/club side of a restauarnt... :) That way, I was always at the party...
Grew up in Wichita
Moved to Park City in 1974.
Graduated from Wichita Heights High School
Married with children
59 years old
Park City Compliance officer
Boy scout leader
Worked at ADT security. Installed security systems for ADT, which were required because of fear of BTK
Spent 4 years in Air Force, time in Korea
graduated in Administrative Justice at Wichita State in 1979
President of Christ Lutheran Church
http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-kansas_news&msg=6354.1
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I'm aware of that. There are links all over Usenet to her site as well. It's one of those wildfires that no one person can put out.
Media is going to be all over the Lutheran Church President/Gospel music family thing for months on end.
"Worked at ADT security. Installed security systems for ADT, which were required because of fear of BTK"
It'll be very interesting if they can follow a trail to see if any of those he killed actually had their alarm installed by him....
I dunno...you must remember the Columbine cops who were all bundled up in their SWAT gear and wouldn't go in the building for hours, allowing victims to bleed to death inside while the perps were stone-cold dead.
That's true, and information will come out in due time. I guess I just don't see the point of the protracted press conference we just endured.
Have one person come out, announce that the suspect (POI)- or whatever the appropriate term is - has been been arrested or charged or whatever the status is. Acknowledge the victims families and say it's been a long time in coming, thank everyone involved, then say as with any ongoing investigation we can't answer any questions at this time.
10 minutes - not a public spectacle.
They think they're gonna learn something new?
U.S. National - AP By ROXANA HEGEMAN, Associated Press Writer
WICHITA, Kan. - Police said Saturday they have arrested a man they believe is the notorious BTK serial killer who terrorized Wichita throughout the 1970s and then resurfaced about a year ago after 25 years of silence.
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• BTK News Bulletins (Wichita Police) • BTK Strangler (Wichita Eagle) "The bottom line: BTK is arrested," Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams said at a news conference in Wichita with some of the victims' family members.
BTK investigator Lt. Ken Landwehr identified the suspect as Dennis Rader, a 59-year-old city worker in nearby Park City, who was arrested Friday at his suburban home.
The BTK killer — a self-coined nickname that stands for "Bind, Torture, Kill" — had been linked to eight killings committed between 1974 and 1986. Police said Saturday they have attributed two more slayings to BTK, from 1985 and 1991.
No charges had been filed Saturday. Prosecutor Nola Foulston said that while there is no statute of limitations for homicide, the death penalty would not apply to any crime committed before 1994, when the death penalty was introduced in Kansas.
BTK sent letters to media about the crimes in the 1970s, but stopped for more than two decades before re-establishing contact last March with a letter about an unsolved 1986 killing.
Since then, authorities said the killer has sent at least eight letters to the media or police, including three packages containing jewelry that police believed may have been taken from BTK's victims. One letter contained the driver's license of victim Nancy Fox.
The new letters sent chills through Wichita, but also rekindled hope that modern forensic science could find some clue that would finally lead police to a killer most thought was dead or safely locked in prison for some other crime.
Thousands of tips poured in, and the Kansas Bureau of Investigation conducted hundreds of DNA swabs in connection with the BTK investigation.
A source with knowledge of the investigation who spoke on condition of anonymity said surveillance gave police their "first big piece" of recent evidence, leading authorities to a vehicle and the suspect.
One of the victims newly identified by police, 53-year-old Marine Hedge, lived on Rader's street in Park City. She was abducted from her home in 1985, and her body was found eight days later along a dirt road.
Investigators searched Rader's house Friday and seized computer equipment.
"This has not been an easy task," Wichita Mayor Carlos Mayans said Saturday. "Our fine police department has been, at times, questioned. Their competence was questioned, and their actions were often second-guessed.
"But all the while, these officers were steadfast in their commitment to solve the biggest police case in Wichita's history," Mayans said.
The BTK slayings began in 1974 with the strangulations of Joseph Otero, 38, his wife, Julie, 34, and their two children.
The letters began that same year, with poems and graphic descriptions of the crimes. The killer even called police with details of Nancy Fox's 1977 slaying.
When one of his messages, a poem sent to The Wichita Eagle-Beacon in 1978, was mistakenly routed to the classified ads department, BTK sent a letter to KAKE-TV days later complaining: "How many do I have to kill before I get my name in the paper or some national attention?"
Another letter to the newspaper also underscored BTK's need for recognition.
"How about some name for me, its time: 7 down and many more to go," it read in part. "I like the following. How about you? 'THE B.T.K STRANGLER, 'WICHITA STRANGLER', 'POETIC STRANGLER', 'THE BONDAGE STRANGER' OR 'PSYCHO', 'THE WICHITA HANGMAN', 'THE WICHITA EXECUTIONER,' 'THE GAROTE PHATHOM', 'THE ASPHYXIATER'."
The letters stopped in the late 1970s, but picked up last March, when a letter arrived at The Wichita Eagle with information on an unsolved 1986 killing, a copy of the victim's driver's license and photos of her slain body.
The return address on the letter said it was from Bill Thomas Killman — initials BTK. The address appeared to refer to a now-vacant building.
Police have been extremely tight-lipped about the case in the past year.
In December, the arrest of a Wichita resident on minor charges sparked widespread speculation of a possible link to BTK. That man, who had no connection to the case, later filed a defamation lawsuit against media outlets.
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Not sure if you followed the story of the John List murders?? I live in his old hometown, although I was only 5 or 6yrs. old when he commited them. He killed his mother, wife and four children in their home in the 70's and was arrested a couple of years ago (maybe 1999-2000 or so) Bigtime involved in the church and boy oh boy did they focus on it....
That 'news conference' was so jam packed with information one would need to view it several times to get all of it!
assuming he's transported a dead or live body across state lines somewhere during his crime sprees, wouldn't that make it a federal case and thereby subject to the death penalty irregardless of KS not having the big DP?
I hope so. This freak should be bound and lit on fire.
see how he likes it.
It would have to be the daughter. Husbands and wives aren't blood relatives ... West Virginians excepted.
(West Virginian jokes are popular here in Virginia.)
Eschoir is the BTK killer?
" Do you know if Kansas has the death penalty?"
We did, but it was overruled due to judicial tyranny.
If I was one of the golden doughnut patrol that is where I would be looking..
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