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Philly columnist changes mind on Terri Schiavo (details lead him to side with her parents)
World Net Daily ^ | Feb. 26, 2005 | World Net Daily

Posted on 02/26/2005 5:18:05 AM PST by ViLaLuz

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To: verity
You're quite welcome, verity. Please remember also, medicine is not an exact science, even among those who practice within their discipline, it's still an "art." Doctors aren't all knowing, no matter how specialized their field, either.

Case in point: as a child, I was brought to specialist after specialist for something wrong with my leg. My parents were told many things, one being that I had a flat foot, another that I was suffering from after-effects from the 4-day coma the year before (after over-dosing on a whole bottle of adult aspirins at about age 2). Initially, my parents just thought I wanted attention because of my newborn brother (I cradled my leg like it was a baby--this was because of the pain, however, which I still remember).

One day, our family g.p. physician, an old Italian doctor, saw my father and I walking across the street, in front of his home/office; he inquired of my father, "what are you doing for her polio?" My father denied that was my ailment listed off the numerous other specialists' opinions. The doctor then asked, "well, what kind of physical therapy is she receiving?" My father replied, "none." The doctor, then excitedly exclaimed, "she must begin therapy, right away, exercising that leg, or she'll lose the use of it. She has polio." It was a long and painful rehabilitative process, but thank God, this wonderful old Italian doctor saw me walking down the street that day. He saved my leg and kept me from being handicapped. Although he wasn't a specialist, he had seen and treated polio often enough to "know" it when he saw it. He was familiar with it. Those who were the supposed specialists, did nothing for me and had my father listened to them, instead, I would have ended up in a brace or wheelchair.

It's best to have a doctor treat you in their speciality area, but even then, we always prefer the surgeons who are the top surgeons, not just any surgeon; and anesthesologists who are the best, not mediocre.

81 posted on 02/26/2005 12:56:44 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Nataku X
It's suspicious, that's for sure.

Agreed; and an investigation into that is long overdue and equally suspicious that that has not been done.

82 posted on 02/26/2005 12:58:11 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Nataku X; cyn; pc93
Found the thread with Dr. Walker's deposition re the bone scan results (see post #7).

Dr. Walker's Deposition on Bone Scan -- 11/21/2003

83 posted on 02/26/2005 2:10:04 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: The Other Harry

God Bless you!


84 posted on 02/26/2005 2:13:59 PM PST by tuckrdout (Nothin is fool proof to a sufficiently talented fool.)
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To: solitas
"Excellent article! I'm copying it to several acquaintances who are still 'fence sitting' on the issue."

Hope this helps. Let us know if they come to their senses!

85 posted on 02/26/2005 2:27:29 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: verity
Nah. I was a bit touchy.

My grandpa was in what was called a "vegetative state" by his doctor in the last few months of his life so I know what is called a vegetative state in medical terms is not the same as what people assume it is. He was still conscious, could still form a few words, react to stimuli, eat a few bites of food although chewing was beyond him and even get to the bathroom with help.

There are levels of awareness. But most people assume that saying someone is a vegetable means that they are aware of nothing. That is not the case.

86 posted on 02/26/2005 2:33:51 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No one knows the shape of the future or where it will take us. We know only the way is paved in pain)
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To: tuckrdout

That is almost unbelieveable!


87 posted on 02/26/2005 2:46:41 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: nicmarlo
"Felos and Terri's husband maintain she received all the injuries, however, from osteoporosis."

I would think she was too young for osteoporosis at the age she suffered the attack.

88 posted on 02/26/2005 2:48:32 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: Heisenberg
"When I add it all up it tells me that the most humane thing to do is let her go."

Let her go to her parents!

89 posted on 02/26/2005 2:51:07 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: catiwompus

Me, too.


90 posted on 02/26/2005 2:53:00 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Willie Green; Mo1; ..

ping


91 posted on 02/26/2005 2:54:21 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: ViLaLuz

John Grogan a man who can admit he followed the wrong road.
Welcome.


92 posted on 02/26/2005 2:58:43 PM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: ViLaLuz

They claim that she had that problem because of her alleged bulemia...they make all kinds of claims, actually; and the claims change or are added as the need arises, it seems.


93 posted on 02/26/2005 3:19:32 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

They could claim she is a muslim homosexual criminal chicken. That would save her life.


94 posted on 02/26/2005 3:44:34 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: ViLaLuz

if this case weren't so tragic, that would, indeed, be hilarious. Unfortunately, what you said is also true. What does that say about our current culture?


95 posted on 02/26/2005 3:53:38 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Heisenberg

Thank you for your considered opinion.

Thank God you are not in charge of deciding whose life is worth living and who should be starved to death.


96 posted on 02/26/2005 4:23:54 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: tuckrdout; nicmarlo; The Other Harry; nuconvert; MarMema; STARWISE; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; ...
Is there a significant ethical difference between HINO and O.J., BTK, and Scott Peterson?

Mikie lived with the Schindlers after Terri's accident. Mr. Schindler supported Mike and paid Terri's bills, while Mikie made a good show of being the supportive husband. Of course he did have a girlfriend...but, anyway. He took Terri to treatment, bothered the hospital staff to put on her makeup and looked like a very caring husband---while he was trying to win a financial settlement in court. He said he needed enough money to care for Terri for 50 years. I guess he had forgotten her "wishes" for those first 4 years?

But, Mr. Schindler paid Terri's bills. Mike saying he would reimburse when he got the settlement.

The settlement came....Mike quit taking care of Terri, instituted a DNR, and told the rest home not to give her antibiotics. Mr. Schindler asked Mike to reimburse him for the costs of Terri's care for 4 years, with the settlement money, which is what they got the money for---and that is when Mike got angry and decided to "get back" at the Schindersl. Just a couple weeks after the settlement was reached, Mike "remembered" that Terri would not want to be kept alive on "Tubes"!--- The perfect way for Mike to repay those who had supported him!

The clinic mike sued was owned by a company which went bankrupt. His girlfriend, Jodi, had an uncle who was a part owner of that company. Interesting, isn't it? And Jodi's mom worked for the Sheriff's office, until her death...more interesting....

yes, when the details fall out, much is learned.


98 posted on 02/26/2005 5:04:03 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Heisenberg

While your response is well worded, and seems well thought out, it lacks humanity, mercy and dignity.

One would not "let" Terri "go", Terri will have to be killed, because she is not being "kept" alive. So, there is no "Letting go" there is only the option of murder. To murder a vulnerable humanbeing who may not have value in YOUR eyes--but tremendous value to her parents and sibliings, and ME.

It sounds all warm and fuzzy to say that it would be "more humane" to kill Terri than to let her live as a "potted house plant"...but, if Terri is in such a detached, mindless state, what will it hurt her? According to you, she is unaware of her state or her surroundings--and so her pride isn't hurt in the least. So, there goes your argument! If she is unaware, then the only "inhumane" thing would be to put her parents through the torture of her impending, inhumane, painful death.

Listen, Mr. Felos, the only one who would be in pain, if Terri lives, is Mikie Schiavo--and you.



99 posted on 02/26/2005 5:07:40 PM PST by tuckrdout (Nothin is fool proof to a sufficiently talented fool.)
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To: Heisenberg

As I said, thank God you are not in charge.

Ranking financial gain at the bottom demonstrates to me that you are quite foolish no matter how sophisticated you attempt to portray yourself.

Money is one of the leading causes of marital disputes and deaths. When Terri passes, Michael gets the cash that's left. He can't get it as long as she is alive.

Sex -- as in a new love interest is also high on the list of motivations in marriages and lives ending. He has moved on with his life and has twice impregnated this woman and he openly lives with her.

Do you honestly not see the conflicts or do you just not care? Is it all a clinical analysis for you even without meeting Terri? Are you omnipotent or just onmicient?

Or just a ghoul that you suggest others are?


100 posted on 02/26/2005 5:17:13 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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