DIVERSITY IN THE CLASSROOM (A Liberal sees the light!)

Santa Barbara News - Press ^ | 2/24/05 | Camilla Cohee

[JimRed]

...where friendship circle possibilities are very, very small because they don't speak the same language."

This is America. Speak, read and write English or go to some Spanish speaking country.

[freedumb2003]

When did the people of California vote to have this happen to them?

When they voted for an almost all-Democratoc Legislature.

OTOH, they did vote for Prop 187, but now they won't fight to have it reinstated.

[freedumb2003]

Sometimes the mods can fix errors in the title.

I may be talking out of school here, but when I see something that needs fixing, I "report abuse" on myself and then ask, ever so nicely, for the fix.

Thanks for the fix AM! That "see's" was driving me nuts.

[RFEngineer]

"if you aren't from California, you can't put this in context"

Absolutely correct......when my oldest was going into kindergarten, I visited the local school and decided there was no way I could do this to her. I enrolled her in a private school I couldn't afford and took the first transfer I could find. That was 10 years ago. I can't imagine what it is like now, but I knew where it was headed.

[Amelia]

Thanks for the fix AM! That "see's" was driving me nuts.

DITTOS!!!

[Dasaji]

some of us and our families decided to build things like dams , power plants, roads, libraries hospitals, sewers, parks , malls and schools ect.. Others decided not to do these things . If those others who now claim this is land issue, why dont they squat in desert where the is oodels of land and they are free to build their own infrastructure? Somehow I don't think this is really a land issue.

Kind of sounds like an Israel/Palastinian thing....

[D Rider]

Unfortunately the poorer kids are captive to the liberal brainwashing centers.

The problem with vouchers is that in places like LA the private schools will be flooded. Equilibrium will occur, and all the schools will be dumbed down, unless schools start using academic standards for admissions. Then, complaints will be made and since the schools take public money they will be forced to admit those that do not come up to standard and end up dumbing down everyone else.

NO on VOUCHERS!

[LauraleeBraswell]

""I've seen blond-blues eyed Hispanics and dark skinned Europeons. Confusing, eh?""

Not confusing for us. Mexicans are actually native Americans, and the European Spanyiards came in. While there was some intermarriage there wasn't too much, but for those who are both we use the term "Hispanic". While Cameron Diaz and Christina Auguilera like to claim to be "Hispanic" or "Latino" they really are European.

If you watch a Spanish Speaking Channel on TV, you'll notice all the people are European looking. If you happen to catch a Spanish Speaking Talk show, you'll notice all the people in the audience are Mexican or Native American- and the host is always European.

[Thommas]

When did the people of California vote to have this happen to them?

When they voted for Boxer, Feinstein, Gray Davis, and the Democrat State Legislature; when they vote against every referendum to protect the state from illegal immigrants and FOR every referendum that pumps more bucks into a Marxist school budget. The counties with the biggest socioeconomic problems are the BLUE counties.

Because of the Democrats in this state, California is rapidly becoming a province of Mexico - Hail Azetlan!

[WindOracle]

lol.. yeah, I was tired, but as I said, ya can take it as an example of Public School education. My parents could not afford a private school for their kid like I can mine.

[Amelia]

I was educated in the public schools as well.

I realize you are making a jab and a joke, but at some point as a conservative you need to take responsibility for yourself and not blame your faults on others.

[WindOracle]

As more demand occurs, more schools will open to meet that demand, and competition will do the rest. I will take that over public schools with virtually no accountability and whose quality declines in direct proportion to the increase in funding.

[WindOracle]

Like I said, I was tired.. as for the other.. well it is just an amusing point.

[cyborg]

very interesting...this is why there will never be vouchers. drider you need a grip on reality. Parents who don't care won't be bothering with vouchers. You've reveled yourself in that post.

[D Rider]

As more demand occurs, more schools will open to meet that demand, and competition will do the rest. I will take that over public schools with virtually no accountability and whose quality declines in direct proportion to the increase in funding.

While all that is true. In places like LA, the results will also include the destruction of "elite" private schools, due to regional demographics.

[WindOracle]

I doubt it. They will likely increase their rates as more schools begin popping up. The "Elites" who can pay more will always be willing to do so if they think it is in their kid's interest. This would be especially true during the early part of the migration from public schools, while not enough private schools exist yet. That too is a matter of supply and demand.

[rdb3]

NO on VOUCHERS!

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YES ON VOUCHERS!

This is one issue that I'll fight like hell over. You are not offering any solutions, of course.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

Just about every point made in this article makes the bold statement that it is the Latinos who want nothing to do with the American/Caucasians. It's the Americans/Caucasians that are so loaded down with this suicidal 'diversity' notion that they are forced to flee in order to maintain a modicum of academic and social standards. If the Latinos en masse are not trying to reverse the tide of white-flight, what does that tell anyone with a grain of intellectual integrity?

I would do the same thing and move to a better area. But we need to stake our sashes to the ground and fight for our borders and culture with ferocity.

[Amelia]

Like I said, I was tired.. as for the other.. well it is just an amusing point.

I realize it's amusing to certain FReepers, but it's also the sort of knee-jerk and simplistic response that is typical of any thread related to public education.

As the article shows, there are some public schools which are abysmal, and others with much higher quality.

One point illustrated by the article is that a major factor in the quality of a particular school will be the type of students in the school. Another is parental involvement and the value the parents put on education.

[WindOracle]

I realize it's amusing to certain FReepers, but it's also the sort of knee-jerk and simplistic response that is typical of any thread related to public education.

Actually, I feel any who would try to use a punctuation error I made in such a circumstance as a manner in which to undermine the validity of the article itself, would be committing an obvious logical error, as much fun as they may get from the attempt. I also feel some people who worry overmuch about such things are perhaps a bit too anal retentive types who need to loosen up a bit.

If you had read any posts I have made in several education threads, you would be very aware that I take education seriously... just not people who take pi**-ant little things and make a big issue of them. So my response was simplistic... that is because I feel people who make SUCH A BIG DEAL over such a petty thing are pretty simplistic themselves.

Happy ya got it corrected though.. perhaps ya will not lose so much sleep now. Thx! Have a VERY nice day!