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To: kellynla

I danced around nothing. Latin rite, specifically, has a different form of salvation, sin, life after death, forgiveness, structure, authority, etc. Right on down the line it is all different. And it is largely based on philosophy - not scripture.. thus the difference. It's just common sense. You can set a VW Bus next to a Kenworth Semi truck. Both are vehicles, just as Christianity and Catholicism are both religions. Both are choices to be respected. You can even paint the two trucks with Jesus, Mary and Paul.. that doesn't make the trucks both Kenworths or both VWs.. It just means the paint jobs look alike. The surface they're painted upon is vastly different. Do they get you the same place - nope. You can't tow a 20+ foot box trailer behind a VW Bus. If I pointed out the same thing about Mormonism or the Jim Jones cult, you'd agree, I'm sure. They both painted themselves with Jesus, the apostels etc.. They also claimed to be Christian. But the veneer'd claim doesn't make it so. Nor do fits of dissent when the facts are pointed out. Claiming to be an officer of the law when you are not is fraud. Apparently if you stamp your feet and protest loud enough, we're supposed to accept it and let you have your way. Doesn't work with the policeman - why then should different level of scrutiny be applied to religion?

I might note, it used to be that Catholics would not claim Christianity. They flatly would not do it. Looking at the differences, I understand why. And that is in large part what made me start studying the differences back in the late 80's. Having debated the issue here and elsewhere, I find people saying "Well, there's room for different interpretations." No, really there isn't. When you tell your kids to clean the room, you meant something specific.
If your kid comes and tells you there is room for interpretation and that's why he was playing instead, you'd bust the kid's butt. Because it's religion, you'd dissemble in place of the kid to pretend it's just a matter of interpretation. Christ didn't let that go with the Pharisees. Why should the rest of us.

Like I said, I support your right to be Catholic, Budhist, Krishan, etc. I can defend the ground and have at length many times here and elsewhere. You would claim that protestants aren't truly Christians if you went by your dogma - they cannot be said to be "invincibly ignorant" because they know of the Pope and the claims of the Papacy.
They cannot therefore claim ignorance. But you've weakened that stance in order to use Ecumenism to try to draw the protestants into Catholicism. You even know they aren't the same thing. Then there's the problem of Orthodox Catholicism vs. Latin rite. They're even different from one another. Two different sets of requirements for salvation is a big one. As it is central, it is no small, dismissable difference. You either have the right message or you don't.
Latin rite taught the Orthodox view, then changed things more than a thousand years after Christ died and added to their requirements. Thusly, they taught error. Venerate is a term synonymous with worship. In meaning and practice they are the identical same thing. I understand some people don't like that being pointed out; but, it is another massive example of blatent, utter divergence.

They're different. You picked your religion for a purpose, and I respect your choice. But having picked yours please don't tell me you're in mine.



82 posted on 02/27/2005 7:21:31 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Havoc

you reeeeeely are a waste of time.

Until you acknowlege the fact that
Catholics are Christians
DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE OF MY TIME WITH YOUR POSTS!


good byyyyyyyye


83 posted on 02/27/2005 9:10:03 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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