Sojourners: Christianity Wedded to Marxism

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[wastoute]

I recently read "Divine Conspiracy" by Dallas Willard and he points out early in the book that these "social justice" liberal theologians miss the point about what Jesus said about the Kingdom of Heaven. The KoH will never be brought about by our works. It doesn't matter how "good" you are, or how "good" your intentions are. The KoH that is available to us NOW is attained only by a personal submission to His Will. These "liberal theologians" are nothing but Marxists with a thin veneer of Christianity (and it is VERY thin). Every time Falwell appears with this guy he blows him out by asking him to denounce abortion. Mallis refuses to do it. Imagine that...and he calls himself "Reverend". Peter, Paul, you name your author, they all warn against false teachers. Social Justice theology is just the latest iteration for the same false doctrine that Paul, Peter, John and the rest wrote about.

[StonyBurk]

THANK YOU Mr.Jackson-- allways knew Wallis was a false prophet. Your posted thread has well documented the fact.
Radical means rooted--Yes and the radical Muslims are the ones who fly airplanes with hostages into the World Trade
Center.Radical Democrats obstruct th ePResident Only because he is not a Democrat. Radical Christians ,in name only -- defend and promote the homosexual lifestyle as
acceptable to God.One can be rooted -do recall reading Peter
Gomes-the Good book-- and that man is rooted-problem is where his roots are is NOT an acceptable hermeneutic.

[NeilGus]

I believe that democracy, capitalism and Christianity are natural allies. All allow free choice.

Communism, socialism and atheism and all natural allies. All believe that the government is the source of all things.

My question is whether dictatorship, virtually no economy and Islam are wedded. Certainly, recent history supports this theory. All promote their position by force. I hope that in Iraq we prove that this is not true, but time will tell.

[Wilhelm Tell]

So Wallis & co embrace various forms of Leninism as an alternative. A classic example of leftist inability to see the plain truth that Marxist-leninist forms of the modern state produced the most deadly version of the totalitarian order and the most vicious form of state organization in human history

Marxists are typically full of themselves and they tend not to be introspective. They might grudgingly admit that Lenin and Stalin made a few "mistakes," but each Marxist imagines him or herself as the supreme ruler with absolute power. Each Marxist thinks, "If only I had absolute power, I could create a perfect utopia, no problem." Their next thought is, "Of course, there are a few -- just a few -- people in my way who will have to be liquidated."

[Theo]

If it is the Hegelian Dialectic, is it avoidable?

Not sure I understand. I was just referring to how the Hegelian Dialectic is largely responsible for facilitating the "synthesis" of Marxism and Christianity, that two opposing ideas might be combined into a "better" result.

[muawiyah]

The problem is that the Left has no philosophical base upon which to establish a moral code.

Christians who get too close to the Left also perish spirtually.

This is not news.

[orionblamblam]

> It must take an intellectual genius to wed a religion to a political ideology that believes that "religion is the opiate of the masses."

Keep in mind, the history of Christianitry has long had communism in it. Many very early Christian communities were communes... as was the group that set up Plymouth Plantation here in America. They tried communism for a year or two, until they realized that it wasn't working (and they were starving), and switched to private ownership of the land.

[robowombat]

You are correct that many 'believing' Marxists believe they are possessed of godlike powers. it is what makes Marxist liberalism able to survive and flourish in spite of massive amounts of evidence that every attempt to implement its tenets produces unparalleled institutionalized misery and brutal tyranny.

I suppose the basis for this continuing attractiveness of Marxism is that it offers, or pretends to offer, a unified explanation for all historical and social phenomenon across all time and places. Thus those who think of themselves as Marxists frequently think they possess profound wisdom via their supposed insight derived from 'Marx thought'. Marxism is a magnet for power hungry types who want to engage in megalomaniac behavior but have to feel bullying and terrorizing others is for a higher 'good', in this case the 'radiant future' of the Marxist utopia.

[sauropod]

read later

[.cnI redruM]

>>>>They tried communism for a year or two, until they realized that it wasn't working (and they were starving), and switched to private ownership of the land.

Which is what differentiates them from Liberation Theologists. They had no normative faith in it. They tried it, it failed, they junked it. End of story.

[shubi]

One of the residents in my homeless ministry was murdered this morning. I will not be posting for awhile.

[TheGeezer]

I was referring to dialectical materialism (Hegel was its "metacreator") in which the course of history is cast into an inevitable path by interaction of forces of materialism. Or, is my understanding of DM all skewed?

[Terriergal]

I just left our Evangelical Covenant church (actually got kicked out) for objection to Purpose Driven philosophy in our church... But upon further research I find that the E Covenant is closely CLOSELY tied with Sojourners and Jim Wallis. They are adopting more and more of this Marxist language in their 'affirmations' (have to call them 'affirmations' rather than 'statement of faith' because that's more 'positive' I suppose...)