Actual Tsunami pics, taken by a couple before death

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[Capitalism2003]

wow...

Look how far out the ocean was pulled before the wave came in...You can see boats stranded on the sand and a (formerly submerged) coral reef showing completely...It looks like people just were walking out on the sand in awe, not knowing what was coming.

To get a sense of size, compare the normal 3-4 ft waves in the first few pics with the wall of ocean coming in behind them at 150mph...

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[XR7]

What gets me is that after the earthquake, Drudge reported that scientists were "concerned" about possible tsunamis. You'd think the mainstream media would have picked up on that tip and had cameras rolling from helicopters along all the beaches in Asia. That was my first thought when I saw that news report. A couple of hours later, and the coastal areas are wiped out by a "surprise" tsunami. Apparently, the media, and the governments, were asleep at the switch. There was enough warning, apparently. After all, it was on Drudge! Oughta be some good lawsuits come of this.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Incredible!!!!

[Lexinom]

That's what I'd read, too, about tidal waves. Kinetic energy is converted from one form to another - from speed in a free ocean to height near land as the free volume decreases with the approaching shore. Fluid dynamics.

[Lexinom]

XR7. A nice car.

[MARTIAL MONK]

Bangladesh?

[David1]

wow

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Yes, Rain hasn't left So Cal, rain in San Diego and it appears from the Radar below the Cajon Pass.

Check the storm thread.

[Brian Allen]

<< I just did a little math. Assuming the Tsunami killed 200,000 people (I've heard higher numbers, but for arguments sake, I'll use 200k).

The population of Thailand is 61 million. This amounts to .305% of the population killed.

America, with a population today of 296 million, an equal sacrifice (percentagewise) would be 902,800 deaths. >>

So lets see a little perspective, here:

In 2004 around two and a half million Africans died from the diseases the health organizations [To maximize their aid "takes"] have lumped under the HIV/AIDS umbrella -- and another two millions or so died young from all of the other African causes of early death.

In America the equivilent number of deaths would have been around two million, six-hundred and fifty thousand.

And meanwhile, in 2004, between three and three-hundred and fifty thousand Americans died from our biggest-killer disease: Alcoholism.

[Lexinom]

Alcoholism is terrible, but as far primary cause of death ranks way down there at 12, with undoubted bleedover into 6.

(There is, however, some research data suggesting acetaldehyde, an intermediary substance into which the liver converts alcohol during metabolization, interferes with celluar DNA repair functions and can therefore facilite some of the mutations that lead to cancer.)

Rank1	Causes of death	Number	Deaths per 100,000 population
	All causes	2,416,425	848.5
1.	Diseases of heart	700,142	245.8
2.	Malignant neoplasms (cancer)	553,768	194.4
3.	Cerebrovascular diseases	163,538	57.4
4.	Chronic lower respiratory diseases	123,013	43.2
5.	Accidents (unintentional injuries)	101,537	35.7
6.	Diabetes mellitus	71,372	25.1
7.	Influenza and pneumonia	62,034	21.8
8.	Alzheimer's disease	53,852	18.9
9.	Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis	39,480	13.9
10.	Septicemia	32,238	11.3
11.	Suicide	30,622	10.8
12.	Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis	27,035	9.5
13.	Homicide	20,308	7.1
14.	Hypertension and hypertensive renal disease	19,250	6.8
15.	Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids	17,301	6.1
	All other causes	400,935	140.8

1. Rank based on number of deaths.

Source: U.S. National Center for Health Statistics, National Vital Statistics Report, vol. 52, no. 3, Sept. 18, 2003. Web: www.cdc.gov/nchs

[Ramius]

There is Tsunami speculation with just about every quake. Very rarely, however, do tsunamis actually result. Also, all around the Pacific rim there is a reasonably elaborate tsunami detection system. There is no such system in the Indian ocean basin.

[Mark17]

That guy in the pic has about 5 seconds to live. It is awful, but I wonder what he was thinking at that moment?

[Comus]

"Surf's up Dude" or "Aw shit" take your pick.

[Mark17]

"Surf's up Dude" or "Aw shit" take your pick.

Whatever he thought, I think he was taken by surprise. I wonder how much time they have from when the water recedes, till it hits? Time enough to run away from the beach, to safety?

[Brian Allen]

<< Alcoholism is terrible, but as far primary cause of death ranks way down there at 12 ... >>

Ah-Hah!

But only if its underlying position as the primary cause of and/or catalyst for such of its associated disorders and secondary effects as:

1. Diseases of heart;

2. Malignant neoplasms;

3. Cerebrovascular diseases;

4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases;

5. Accidents;

6. Diabetes mellitus

7. Influenza and pneumonia;

8. Alzheimer's disease; [And/or Korsokoff's Syndrome]

9. Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis

10. Septicemia;

11. Suicide;

12. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis;

13. Homicide;

14. Hypertension and hypertensive renal disease;

15. Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids and;

16. All other causes;

Are overlooked.

Alcoholism -- despite that it has an extraordinarily simple diagnosis and clearly defined and easily recognizable symptoms, suffers awfully from the denial of family members of its sufferers and of the medical profession, around one third [Thirty-nine per-cent in one Australian AMA-member survey] of whose practicioners suffer from it and/or from its [Very] distant cousin-of-sorts, the [Usually-criminal] behaviorial consequence usually referred to as "drug addiction."

When all of the ignorance and denial that surrounds it is cleared away, however, Alcoholism stands head and shoulders clear of every other contender as the principle primary western-societal cause of death.

Blessings -- B A

[Lexinom]

Brian, I'm not sure I can accept that. I give you alcohol as a possible catalyst for overexpression of certain oncogenes which can lead to malignant neoplasms. We have a close relative (wife's dad) dying of lung cancer. He was often to be found at the bar drinking and smoking with his buddies.

I will also give you #5, accidents (not #6 diabetes as erroneosly cited before).

But heart disease?

You assign too great a role to the abuse of one substance while overlooking other immoral behaviors that can lead one to an untimely demise: gluttony (heart disease), smoking (heart disease, cancer, pulmonary impairment), promiscuity (AIDS), and so forth.

I would humbly submit to you the ultimate cause of death is sin. Alcohol isn't evil, tobacco isn't evil, food isn't evil; the human heart, that takes and abuses those things, is evil by nature (Romans 7:13-24).

Rich blessings,

[WildTurkey]

The actual wave once it's visible from shore and hitting shore is traveling at most 20-40 mph. That's plenty fast.

The shallow water velocity is given by:

c = (g * d)^1/2, where g = 9.8 m/sec² and d = depth in meters.

[Brian Allen]

<< You assign too great a role to the abuse of one substance ..... >>

"Abuse of [A] substance?"

I mentioned no such "abuse."

All I talked about was the disease: Alcoholism, whose diagnosis is the phyical allergy to alcohol which manifests in the phenomenon of craving, which alergy and craving is unique to Alcoholics and which sets Alcoholics apart from such normal folks as take an occasional alcoholic drink without consequence. And which disease, by the way, should not to be confused with any of the effectively-elective disease states that are but the consequences of the poor behaviorial choices that lead into what is usually called "addiction" and that include habitual drunkedness and so-called "substance abuse"

[Although I never quite figured out quite how that works and whether the form the abuse takes is physical, emotional or verbal. Does one line up the substances one elects to abuse and curse at them -- or what? "Bloody *&^%%$%^^& cocaine!" is it? "Stinking, rotten, *&^%%$%^^& "speed? -- I hate you!"]

Take care -- Brian

[CGVet58]

I wonder where deaths by abortion fit on this scale?

off the top of my head, if we have had 44 million abortions since 1973 in the US, that comes out to slightly over 1 million, three hundred seventy five thousand per year.

[Fredgoblu]

Interesting table, Lexinom.

Does nobody die of old age any more?!?!

Here's a question for you: How many of those accidents, how much of that heart disease, now many of those cancers are only now an issue because we live longer than we did 100 years ago? Or to twist it just a little more...in how many of these cases is old age the cause, and the disease (and death) just the effect...the consequence of living longer?

I'd wager to say that 100 years ago, skin cancer was virtually non-existent. Today, living to 80 instead of 45, we're exposed to nearly double the dose of radiation in our lives...and we're much more susceptible.

Hmmmm?