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Afghan Christian says faith might cost him his life
Duluth News Tribune ^ | February 22, 2005 | By MARK MORRIS

Posted on 02/24/2005 8:45:21 PM PST by underlying

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1 posted on 02/24/2005 8:45:23 PM PST by underlying
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This is disgusting. Let's keep him and deport 10 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE ON WELFARE. He works, pays his way and has clearly made his case for asylum. What &/or who was the immigration judge. Is he/she a muslim or know anything about Christianity to judge another's understanding of the faith???
2 posted on 02/24/2005 9:01:50 PM PST by Just A Nobody
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To: underlying
Experts say that despite the reforms of President Hamid Karzai, Afghanistan remains a conservative country, committed to an interpretation of Islamic law that makes apostasy a capital crime.

I can't help thinking that we've made a major mistake turning the reins of power back over before the populace was taught to accept freedom of religion.

Maybe it will come with time.

3 posted on 02/24/2005 9:42:48 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Justanobody

Another ploy for assylum...creative at least..


4 posted on 02/24/2005 10:25:51 PM PST by Dr. Marten
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To: ariamne; jan in Colorado; Former Dodger; broadsword; Dark Skies; Victoria Delsoul; Fred Nerks; ...

This is NOT a p.r.o.p. ping, so I am only pinging some "PROP listers"!

This is a more inspirational story (in a way) about an Afghan man who simply started to read a Bible that found its way into his hands...he saw that there was truth there and...

You will have to read the rest. Now he is struggling to stay safely in the USA...

warm regards all

A.A.C.


5 posted on 02/24/2005 11:13:18 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

"Afghan jurists have stated that apostasy from islam would be considered a capital offence but..."

That statement leaves me thunderstruck.


6 posted on 02/24/2005 11:46:36 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
Normally, I'd not believe a word he says; I don't trust any of them.

But he has sacrificed a lot to stand by his faith in Jesus Christ. He deserves to stay.

7 posted on 02/25/2005 7:31:41 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: Fred Nerks

Islam has to force people to stay with the faith because it fears the truth will lead people to leave.


8 posted on 02/25/2005 8:00:09 AM PST by rdcorso (We Are A Nation Fighting Against The Deadly Disease Of Liberalism)
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To: AmericanArchConservative; TexasCowboy; Dark Skies; USF; Fred Nerks; Former Dodger; ...
Thanks for posting this article AAC!

I'm going to share a few of my observations about Islam.

This story is a perfect example of why I question Islam being classified as a "religion."

"Belief" is defined as

be·lief... Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something
Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons


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The definition of "Religion"
re·li·gion n. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

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I apologize for the vocabulary lesson,but I think the definition of religion and belief is important here! It seems to me that for something to be a religion, there must be a belief. Nowhere in the definition of religion, do I see forced submission! If Islam is a religion, then WHY can't its followers freely choose whether or not they want to be Muslims?

The rejection of Islam is considered a capital offense which should raise serious questions to all who claim that Islam is a religion of peace.
Those two statements are incompatible. A "belief" is not something you can impose or force on someone. It is a choice that each individual has to make for himself.

As for Ahmad Ahmadshah, the man in this article, he is fortunate that he had the opportunity to read the Bible and that he can recognize the Truth in it. Sadly, the majority of forced, submissive followers of Islam are never given the opportunity to read the Bible and then choose for themselves what they believe.

I have posted this quote before and it states what I believe to be true:
"Muslims are the first victims of Islam.... fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain the others in the practice of religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can do."Ernest Renan (1883).

As for the Christian persecution Ahmad Ahmadshah faces...

from the Bible: "In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived." 2 Timothy 3:12-13
9 posted on 02/25/2005 11:40:01 AM PST by jan in Colorado (If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation;the old has gone,the new has come! 2 Corinthians. 5:17)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

Is there anything we as ordinary citizens can do? To send this man, who obviously recognized the word of the one true God, back to be tortured and killed would be a terrible miscarriage of justice.

What other religion calls for a death sentence for leaving it?


10 posted on 02/25/2005 12:00:26 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: jan in Colorado

'One of the world's great religions' has some 1.5 billion followers many of whom face death if they read the Bible.

I am one of (how many?) billions who call themselves Christian.
I am still waiting for my death penalty. I read the koran three times.

Islam, stop wondering why the West cannot believe islam is a religion.


11 posted on 02/25/2005 3:33:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Brilliant post!


12 posted on 02/25/2005 3:37:25 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative; jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks
Thx for the ping, AAC

Reminds one of this definition of martyrdom (the real kind)...

2 Corinthians, 12:10

Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, IN PERSECUTIONS, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

13 posted on 02/25/2005 5:25:12 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado
Good post Freddie...

This Guy (no, not Caviezel) is the One worth suffering for, worth dying for...worth living for...


14 posted on 02/25/2005 5:49:42 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies; jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks; USF
The following courtesy of "jan in Colorado"...thx jan, for all the great work...


15 posted on 02/25/2005 6:49:42 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies

LOL! Did you forget to preview your piccie to jan?


16 posted on 02/25/2005 6:52:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Fred Nerks

What do you mean?


17 posted on 02/25/2005 6:53:56 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Fred Nerks

It didn't work for me either!


18 posted on 02/25/2005 6:54:10 PM PST by jan in Colorado (If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation;the old has gone,the new has come! 2 Corinthians. 5:17)
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To: jan in Colorado

It had better be a good one...I'm waiting...


19 posted on 02/25/2005 7:01:12 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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I emailed it to you Fred. It's a great one! I wish I could post it!


20 posted on 02/25/2005 7:04:01 PM PST by jan in Colorado (If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation;the old has gone,the new has come! 2 Corinthians. 5:17)
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