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SENATOR KUEHL ANNOUNCES INTRODUCTION OF SB 840 (Socialized Medicine for All Californians)
Word and Brown Legislative Alert ^ | 2-24-2005 | Word and Brown Legislative Alert

Posted on 02/24/2005 4:59:24 PM PST by Nachum

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To: farmfriend

BTT!!!!!!!


81 posted on 02/25/2005 3:04:38 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Nachum; All; farmfriend; calcowgirl; ConservativeMan55; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; JulieRNR21; ...

Did I hear you say that the co-author of this piece of trash is none other than that veritable CHAMPION of 'Nanny-Government', State Senator Deborah (...I'm from the GOVERNMENT, AND I'm here to "HELP" you...) Ortiz...??? Isn't she the same Ortiz who has brought us so MANY wrong-headed bills, like her thankfully-failed attempt to impose a soda-pop tax to "keep people from getting fat"...???!!!

WHY am I not surprised...???

   
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82 posted on 02/25/2005 4:50:19 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: farmfriend

"What's *just* has been debated for centuries but let me offer you my definition of social justice: I keep what I earn and you keep what you earn. Do you disagree? Well then tell me how much of what I earn *belongs* to you – and why?" – Walter Williams


83 posted on 02/25/2005 5:52:40 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: .38sw; goldstategop; farmfriend; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; hedgetrimmer

84 posted on 02/25/2005 5:56:33 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: goldstategop
RE: Now its simply a matter of arguing the next expansion of government health care ought to be for "the children."

Let's HOPE not...!!!

"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." – Abraham Lincoln


85 posted on 02/25/2005 6:10:05 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: Seadog Bytes

So... What happens when they run out of OPM, like today's CA!!!


87 posted on 02/25/2005 10:04:25 PM PST by SierraWasp (The Dems have lost whatever "redeeming social value" they ever had!!! Just ask Zell...)
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To: SierraWasp
Confidentially... Then, I suspect, they'll be coming after you and me.
88 posted on 02/25/2005 11:01:17 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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..... Deborah (...I'm from the GOVERNMENT, AND I'm here to "HELP" you...) Ortiz...??? Isn't she the same Ortiz who has brought us so MANY wrong-headed bills, like her thankfully-failed attempt to impose a soda-pop tax to "keep people from getting fat"...???!!!

hahahaaaa! What stupidity. That reminds me of this ignoramous Leticia Van de Putte (Van de Puke, Van de Puta?), Texas 'RAT Senator that came up with the idea/bill to check school kids for fat along with testing. The point was to try to reduce obesity.

Here she is, btw:



89 posted on 02/26/2005 4:07:58 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Seadog Bytes
Oh, she's also the Senator that lead the 'RATS that fled Texas to New Mexico during the attempted obstruction of Redistricting here in Texas in 2003. Make the the FAILED attempt!

90 posted on 02/26/2005 4:09:56 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Ha, Meek!   I think YOU win this round. (I'll just have to go looking for a less-complimentary pic of OURS!)   All I could find were THESE...

Sheila Kuehl (D-Los Angeles)
 

91 posted on 02/26/2005 3:01:41 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Oh yeah, and here's another pic of our illustrious state Sen.
Deborah ('Bigger-gov't-is-always-better) Ortiz...

92 posted on 02/26/2005 3:11:08 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: Nachum
SENATOR KUEHL ANNOUNCES INTRODUCTION OF SB 840 (Socialized Medicine for All Californians)

Tennessee was in good financial shape when they passed TennCare.

A few years later IIRC TennCare was taking up 30% of their budget and they had to get rid of it.

California is in debt and overflowing with illegal aliens... Gee, I wonder how this will turn out?

93 posted on 02/26/2005 3:17:28 PM PST by RJL
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To: Nachum
According to the Lewin model, it is possible to insure all state residents with full coverage that includes medical, dental, vision, hospitalization and prescription drug benefits, and that is based on a high standard for quality, by streamlining the process of reimbursement.

I’m always amazed, where does America find people like the folks at Lewin?

With their plan, Lewin could have started their own medical company and almost everyone in California would have voluntarily joined.

Every single person at Lewin would have been far wealthier than Bill Gates and Sam Walton combined, but no, for the good of the public, they chose to only be paid a small amount for their plan and will allow the state of California to take the money and the credit. All hail the Lewin plan!

/Sarcasm

94 posted on 02/26/2005 3:36:19 PM PST by RJL
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To: Nachum

This will NEVER happen because there is too much money to be made in the insurance and drug industries. It's so very easy to manipulate the drones into blocking this just by tossing out some buzzwords like Socialized Medicine.

Well I for one don't worry about it. Although I am uninsurable because I take Coumadin I don't worry aboutit. At some point we will reach critical mass and too many people will be uninsured and the system will collapse. THEN you will see this happen.

Conservatives are IN FACT the greatest allies to Single-Payer health care systems. They will oppose ANY reform that could stave off the collapse by calling in Socialized medicine and cry about waiting lists and rationing. (We have that now folks)

The longer you put off even modest reforms means the greater the corrective measures you have to take.

What's the number 45 million unisured Nationally now. Do we go to 55 million 60 million????

And remember about 50% of the population has some form of GOVERNMENT Heathcare NOW. OH MY GOD call FOX News and Rush! Yeah 50% of are either: over 65(medicare), Poor (medicaid/Medical), military, or federal/state employee.


95 posted on 02/28/2005 5:54:39 PM PST by Former Republican (You can't trust a Conservative with money! Borrow and spend, Spend and Borrow.)
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Although I am uninsurable because I take Coumadin I don't worry aboutit. At some point we will reach critical mass and too many people will be uninsured and the system will collapse. THEN you will see this happen.

This is idiotic. Lots of people take Coumadin and get insured (why are you using this old drug anyway - it's gone generic).

The left are the ones trying to give away healthcare to uninsured illegals now. Plus you support the trial lawyers by blocking tort reform. I'll bet you missed the news about Doctors Co. in Texas cutting prices by 14% because of tort reform in that state.

Most of the "facts" in this article are pure baloney. This plan is just another vote-buying attempt from the left.

96 posted on 03/01/2005 3:26:56 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SweetCaroline

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Good, Bad Indifferent

Your unexpressed coment.

My expressed stands


97 posted on 03/02/2005 2:44:54 PM PST by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: dozer7

....sorry, I was bumping where I stopped reading so I could go back!


98 posted on 03/02/2005 5:56:47 PM PST by SweetCaroline (I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me...Philippians 4:13)
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