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SENATOR KUEHL ANNOUNCES INTRODUCTION OF SB 840 (Socialized Medicine for All Californians)
Word and Brown Legislative Alert ^ | 2-24-2005 | Word and Brown Legislative Alert

Posted on 02/24/2005 4:59:24 PM PST by Nachum

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it is possible to insure all state residents with full coverage that includes medical, dental, vision, hospitalization and prescription drug benefits

The "Single Payer" monster rears its ugly head in California once more. It was defeated in the initiative process once before. Let's see if Governor Arnold is conservative or a RINO. FReepers need to be concerned about what happens in California as it represents approximately one seventh of the US economy.

Shiela Kuehl need to be FReeped. Now.

1 posted on 02/24/2005 4:59:35 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
CoolyforniaCare, huh? Oh Sheila, tell us how all this wonderful free health and dental care would be paid for. I'm dying to find out.

(Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")

2 posted on 02/24/2005 5:02:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nachum

This is the standard big government advocate con job. "We'll save all this money and everyone will be covered!"

Some questions might be:

1. What about illegals?

2. What happens when these expected savings don't materialize? Who will pay for this?

3. How will costs be controlled when there is no longer competition?


3 posted on 02/24/2005 5:04:05 PM PST by wvobiwan (Paris Hilton for UN Sec. Gen. - At least we might get laid while we're getting screwed.)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like fun to me.

Guess we'll stay in California and let the liberals pay for our health care and drive the State into total bankruptcy.


4 posted on 02/24/2005 5:05:50 PM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: wvobiwan
And if Canada is the "gold standard" by which a single payer system is measured, there's those two dirty little words: "waiting lists" and "rationing." You'll never hear the proponents of CACare mention them. Let alone the level of taxes required to pay for all the free health care.

(Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")

5 posted on 02/24/2005 5:06:55 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nachum
Means-based premiums, assessed according to income and payroll, would replace all premiums, deductibles, co-pays and out of pocket expenses.

There ya go. Means-based. Another term for "redistribution of income".

6 posted on 02/24/2005 5:07:46 PM PST by .38sw
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The really fun part is that my husband and I don't have enough taxable income to be taxed to pay for this free health care they are going to dole out to us.

I wonder if our poor Latino workers will enjoy paying for this gringo's health care.


7 posted on 02/24/2005 5:10:03 PM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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Let's just quit our day jobs. We'll get everything for free. I mean its paradise, right? If it means I don't have to pay a dime in taxes, I'd want something like what Ms. Kuehl is pitching to Californians.

(Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")

8 posted on 02/24/2005 5:10:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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According to the Lewin model, it is possible to insure all state residents with full coverage that includes medical, dental, vision, hospitalization and prescription drug benefits, and that is based on a high standard for quality,

This is great news. I am delighted.

The semantic equivalent of Lewin's boast is that California asks: "Send me your poor, your lazy, your infirm, your useless. Come to California and get free everything. We will make the rich pay for it all (like the liberal Hollywood types). You don't need 'means'. You don't need to work. You just need to use our medical services."

I sincerely hope they pass this and bankrupt the state. It should provide an excellent object lesson about socialized medicine. What the stupid liberals don't understand is that it is Medicaid, Medicare, and the tax exempt status of health care premiums that is pushing up health costs. They are going in exactly the wrong direction.

But maybe if California goes bankrupt, the rest of the country will understand.

9 posted on 02/24/2005 5:10:32 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine
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WOW

Shiela Kuehl

Zelda from the old Dobie Gillis. Now there is a piece of work. She has aged poorly. She has more Chins than a Shanghi phonebook and the disposition of a scorpion.

This lesbian declared herself the expert on children of divorced parents and was instrumental in ramming through SB 370 that turned my kids into profit centers in the 90's. Even with custody of my sons this HAG made sure I paid 25% of my before taxes income to my X. The boys and I lived poorly for quite some time over that one.

I used up at least three minutes of my 15 minutes of fame in Sacramento one summer when I got into a three way shoving contest between myself, Willie Brown and Hagatha.

What a blast from the past

best regards

the dozer


10 posted on 02/24/2005 5:11:06 PM PST by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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Translation: raise taxes on the rich and the middle class and give the benefits to every one else. Liberals think they're being clever in hiding the unpleasant reality of single payer health care behind bureaucratic euphemisms. Get ready for sticker shocker if this ever becomes law here in California.

(Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News.")

11 posted on 02/24/2005 5:12:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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It'd be a good lesson to them if we conservatives all lined up and sucked the system dry.


12 posted on 02/24/2005 5:13:08 PM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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Translation: raise taxes on the rich and the middle class and give the benefits to every one else.

Well, of course. That goes without saying.

13 posted on 02/24/2005 5:13:45 PM PST by .38sw
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To: goldstategop

Can you say "Kalifornia Kare"


14 posted on 02/24/2005 5:13:47 PM PST by RepublicanHostageinCalif (Want to know what the Dems can do? Just look what they've done to Calif)
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To: goldstategop

My brother solved the raise taxes on the rich problem by moving to Texas 13 years ago, taking his six figure income with him to a State with no income tax.

Many more will follow suit if Arnold doesn't veto this monstrosity.

But if it passes, I will happily limp up to the line to sign up. LOL!

The Anglo reconquista begins....


15 posted on 02/24/2005 5:17:33 PM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Nachum

What's the liberal answer to impending bankruptcy? Why, start a new welfare program and quadruple your spending! That's the ticket.


16 posted on 02/24/2005 5:19:51 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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How do you say "Veto" in Austrian?
17 posted on 02/24/2005 5:20:04 PM PST by msnimje
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Can you say 'exodus' ?
18 posted on 02/24/2005 5:21:07 PM PST by John Lenin (Homing in , this guy has a string attached to him and he don't know it yet)
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I wonder how much he has scared the union thugs. First the nursing union "spontaneously" is up in arms over arnold's policies and now "spontaneously" communist medical care rears its head.


There is no way in H*LL any new business would DARE approach CF.


19 posted on 02/24/2005 5:22:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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What's the liberal answer to impending bankruptcy?

Start funding stem cell research to the tune of 300 million a year for thirty years?

20 posted on 02/24/2005 5:23:09 PM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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