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To: MississippiMan; Walkingfeather

A couple of comments.

Mostly I agree.

However:

1) There's a famous case of a fairly devout Pentecostal/Spirit-filled practicing Christian being abducted. There's some argument as to how up-to-date her Christianity was when the abductions began. But they continued over a long time. I don't have an explanation for that one that fits well. She's the only such case I know of.

There have been LOTS of other so called Christians abducted--evidently some as devout as any you'd find--EVIDENTLY. I'm not quite convinced on that latter point but many are.

Supposedly Roman Catholics and JEWS are !UNDER! REPRESENTED in the abductee population. Not totally absent but mostly absent.

Essentially, every denomination of Christians is somewhat represented.

However, to my understanding, though I've never seen this staticstically in a solid study--Spirit-filled Christians who know their authority in Christ and instantly exercise it in all situations of any kind of threat--THOSE kinds of Christians seem to be very, very, very under represented, to my assessment of the phenomena.

2) There are many examples of craft which COULD be, plausibly--demonic manifestations.

The folks doing the servicing on the craft my relative worked around were not working on demonic plasmic goo. They were working on solid nuts and bolts craft, so to speak.

Are there both? I'm convinced there are both. I'm convinced that there are

1) craft we have built and fly.
2) craft we have recovered and reverse engineered.
3) craft we have been taught to build by ET's.
4) demonic manifestations appearing at various points as craft.
5) ET craft that are not built by us and that are not demonic manifestations.

Dimensional travel between other dimensions and this one can explain a lot of seemingly impossible things. So can some other physics stuff that I'm not capable of discussing very intelligently.

The merging and dividing of smaller craft into larger craft and of multiple craft into one craft sure seems to be very tricky with the physics we suppose to be operant. Reports seem to vary on that. Some seem to think it's just a manifestation of physics we can't conventionally wrap our minds around yet. Others seem to think there is some spiritual forces hokus pokus going on.

Then there's the contention that SOME craft are LIVING BEINGS from other planets. I'm more inclined to believe the demonic than that one but what do I know.

Even some of the Biblical descriptions of some critters boggles the conventional mind and explanation.. . . whether they are symbolic, or not.


735 posted on 02/25/2005 3:48:31 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
Quix, where's the info on the Christians being abducted? I'd very much like to read that if you remember some sources.

And yes, I agree that there could well be a combination of factors in play here, demonic and non-demonic/tangible craft. My point in focusing solely on the demonic angle was strictly in context of how this could well be the explanation used to explain away the rapture.

Being a believer in the rapture and a believer that we're in the season, certain events trip "prophecy flags" in my mind. Attention given to UFOs by one of the big three networks certainly sent a flag up and waving.

Another recent flag was Russia's increased visible interest in the Mid-East. Until then, although they've supported terrorist countries for years, it was in my mind a stretch to imagine a scenario under which Russia would actually lead an invasion of Israel, since their contact with and interest in Israel seemed thready and tenous at best. That's changing rapidly and the Magog invasion no longer seems so far-fetched.

The folks doing the servicing on the craft my relative worked around were not working on demonic plasmic goo.

I've obviously missed a post somewhere. What relative? The Roswell craft?

MM

799 posted on 02/25/2005 7:49:03 AM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Quix
Supposedly Roman Catholics and JEWS are !UNDER! REPRESENTED in the abductee population. Not totally absent but mostly absent.

It's their tough, logical minds that hold them back and keep them safe from such questionable activities/events. It's a good thing. No ETs would want to argue logically to prove they exist.

848 posted on 02/25/2005 10:48:45 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Quix

Quix, you said, 'Are there both? I'm convinced there are both. I'm convinced that there are

'1) craft we have built and fly.
'2) craft we have recovered and reverse engineered.
'3) craft we have been taught to build by ET's.
'4) demonic manifestations appearing at various points as craft.
'5) ET craft that are not built by us and that are not demonic manifestations.'


Highlighting and notetaking here, a week late, but, please Lord, not a dollar short.
Thanks,
JM


1,034 posted on 03/06/2005 3:07:26 PM PST by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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