Posted on 02/24/2005 8:28:51 AM PST by 2banana
If Matthew Shepherd's death was motivated by drugs and robbery, then there's no "cause" to rally behind.
Indeed. It should be known as The Lie of Laramie.
Incidentally I think that it's just as possible that Mathew Sheppard's attackers did it because he was gay AND because they wanted the money, why does it only have to be about one thing?
An excerpt from "New Details Emerge in Matthew Shepard Murder"
"Former Laramie Police Detective Ben Fritzen, one of the lead investigators in the case, also believed robbery was the primary motive. "Matthew Shepard's sexual preference or sexual orientation certainly wasn't the motive in the homicide," he said.
"If it wasn't Shepard, they would have found another easy target. What it came down to really is drugs and money and two punks that were out looking for it," Fritzen said.
Asked directly whether he targeted and attacked Shepard because he was gay, McKinney told Vargas, "No. I did not. … I would say it wasn't a hate crime. All I wanted to do was beat him up and rob him."
But if the attackers were just trying to rob someone to get a drug fix, why did they beat Shepard so savagely?
Rerucha attributes McKinney's rage and his savage beating of Shepard to his drug abuse. "The methamphetamine just fueled to this point where there was no control. It was a horrible, horrible, horrible murder. It was a murder that was once again driven by drugs," Rerucha said.
Dr. Rick Rawson, a professor at UCLA who has studied the link between methamphetamine and violence, tells "20/20" the drug can trigger episodes of violent behavior.
"In the first weeks after you've stopped using it, the kinds of triggers that can set off an episode are completely unpredictable. It can be: you say a word with the wrong inflection, you touch someone on the shoulder. It's completely unpredictable as to what will set somebody off" Rawson said.
"If Aaron McKinney had not become involved with methamphetamine, Matthew Shepard would be alive today," Rerucha said..."
Is it possible that they attacked him because he was gay? Sure. Is it possible that they were going to attack him anyway and hit him a few more times because he was gay? Sure. Problem is, they say it was not motivated by Sheppard's sexuality and only they know why they really did what they did.
We cannot know, beyond a reasonable doubt, which parts of the attack were motivated by the victim's sexuality. In the end we are all just guessing.
Why is it n00bs never seem to be able to distinguish between a single incidence, and a general rule? Do you think you gain any credibility by claiming something occurs all the time, and answering challenges to that claim by asking if it ever happened once?
You can believe what you want, but when I see someone who reacts like Pavlov's dog, I don't expend much effort looking for another reason besides "conditioned response"... particularly when the other reason requires gross hyperbole to support it.
And, if they were looking for an easy target, the guy who is only 5'2" is the one they are going to notice first.
Why parents allow their children to be indoctrinated with this absurd nonsense is beyond comprehension. I'd wager they aren't aware of it in most cases and the ones that are have swallowed the homo agenda propaganda hook, line and sinker.
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The reality is that we don't know and no amount of so called "evidence" from the man who killed that poor boy is going to convince me either way.
Will testimony from one of the lead investigators in the case convince you? As was pointed out in reply 45 above:
"Former Laramie Police Detective Ben Fritzen, one of the lead investigators in the case, also believed robbery was the primary motive. "Matthew Shepard's sexual preference or sexual orientation certainly wasn't the motive in the homicide," he said.
"If it wasn't Shepard, they would have found another easy target. What it came down to really is drugs and money and two punks that were out looking for it," Fritzen said..."
Just because some political lobby dehumanises someone by making them into a martyr doesn't mean you have to let them.
Precisely. That is why it's important to expose THE LIE OF LARAMIE for what it is - it's 'hate crime' propaganda being spoonfed to the public. This play is proof of that. Don't expect us to remain silent while they spread their propaganda.
Mathew Sheppard, whatever else he was, was a human being and he did not deserve to die, especially not in the way that he did.
I fully agree with you. He was brutally murdered and his killers deserved to be brought to justice. Noone deserves to die the way he did.
I think that's what we should be focusing on here.
Tell that to to homosexual groups who are using his death to further their agenda.
And please spare us your accusations of 'hate' and of being 'homophobes':
An excerpt from "If all else fails, silence them! Homosexuals seek 'thought crime'legislation"
"Homosexual activists cannot win the theological debate, nor will medical science, biology, history or common sense support their deadly, tragic and changeable behavior. So they are reduced to accusing their opponents of "hatred" and silencing those brave enough to speak about the consequences of sexual anarchy on children, the family and society...
The only way homosexual activists can persuade America to validate and enforce their agenda is to suppress the truth about homosexuality. The Rev. Earle Fox, who himself was silenced at the Episcopal ceremony at which openly homosexual bishop Gene Robinson was consecrated, put it this way in a recent letter to the Washington Times:
Honest science and godly love are at one with each other. The aim of homosexual-rights advocates has nothing to do with honest love – it is the public justification and total acceptance of homosexual behavior. If possible, they will coerce this acceptance by so-called hate-crime laws.But they have sold the public a pig in a poke because they (very understandably) do not want the public to see what it is buying. There has never been a candid, mutually respectful public discussion of the real issue – homosexual behavior – because homosexual advocates cannot afford to discuss such self-destructive behavior in public, and conservatives are almost universally too prudish to do so ...
When that discussion finally happens, as it will, the jig will be up for public acceptance of homosexuality.
So it makes sense for "gay" activists to press for muzzling speakers who might give America a glimpse of what their agenda is really all about..."
An excerpt from "Who’s the Deviant?"
"... This May in Chicago, further evidence of this troubling trend revealed itself at an APA conference workshop: "Is Homophobia a Mental Illness?"—as indeed the use of the term to describe those who disapprove of homosexuality implies. The politicized tenor of the session revealed itself from the outset, when two of the four male panelists kissed each other on the lips immediately prior to the presentations—exhibiting a provocative attitude toward appropriate professional behavior, if nothing else. To the extent one could glean a definition of homophobia from the confused panelists—as a scientific or theoretical discussion, the session didn't rise above the high school level—it seemed to be simply this: to oppose the agenda of homosexual-rights activism, or even to disapprove of homosexual acts means that one is mentally ill..."
BTTT
Never let them forget his name. He is proof positive that all 'homosexuals' are child molestors.
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I was beaten up by my brother in law when I walked in my house and caught him in my purse. I yelled at him to "GET OUT OF MY HOUSE" so he picked me up and thru me down the 6 front steps that were cement. I was bruses from head to toe. Luckly I didn't hit my head. He went back in a took the money and left the wallet.
That started a family fight that remains to this day, and he is dead!
I've escaped a number of times.
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