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Hydroelectric power's dirty secret revealed
New Scientist ^ | Duncan Graham-Rowe | Duncan Graham-Rowe

Posted on 02/24/2005 7:47:51 AM PST by samtheman

Contrary to popular belief, hydroelectric power can seriously damage the climate. Proposed changes to the way countries' climate budgets are calculated aim to take greenhouse gas emissions from hydropower reservoirs into account, but some experts worry that they will not go far enough.

The green image of hydro power as a benign alternative to fossil fuels is false, says Éric Duchemin, a consultant for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). "Everyone thinks hydro is very clean, but this is not the case," he says.

Hydroelectric dams produce significant amounts of carbon dioxide and methane, and in some cases produce more of these greenhouse gases than power plants running on fossil fuels. Carbon emissions vary from dam to dam, says Philip Fearnside from Brazil's National Institute for Research in the Amazon in Manaus. "But we do know that there are enough emissions to worry about."

In a study to be published in Mitigation and Adaptation Strategies for Global Change, Fearnside estimates that in 1990 the greenhouse effect of emissions from the Curuá-Una dam in Pará, Brazil, was more than three-and-a-half times what would have been produced by generating the same amount of electricity from oil.

This is because large amounts of carbon tied up in trees and other plants are released when the reservoir is initially flooded and the plants rot. Then after this first pulse of decay, plant matter settling on the reservoir's bottom decomposes without oxygen, resulting in a build-up of dissolved methane. This is released into the atmosphere when water passes through the dam's turbines.

"Drawdown" regions

Seasonal changes in water depth mean there is a continuous supply of decaying material. In the dry season plants colonise the banks of the reservoir only to be engulfed when the water level rises. For shallow-shelving reservoirs these "drawdown" regions can account for several thousand square kilometres.

In effect man-made reservoirs convert carbon dioxide in the atmosphere into methane. This is significant because methane's effect on global warming is 21 times stronger than carbon dioxide's.

Claiming that hydro projects are net producers of greenhouse gases is not new (New Scientist print edition, 3 June 2000) but the issue now appears to be climbing up the political agenda. In the next round of IPCC discussions in 2006, the proposed National Greenhouse Gas Inventory Programme, which calculates each country's carbon budget, will include emissions from artificially flooded regions.

But these guidelines will only take account of the first 10 years of a dam's operation and only include surface emissions. Methane production will go unchecked because climate scientists cannot agree on how significant this is; it will also vary between dams. But if Fearnside gets his way these full emissions would be included.

With the proposed IPCC guidelines, tropical countries that rely heavily on hydroelectricity, such as Brazil, could see their national greenhouse emissions inventories increased by as much as 7% (see map). Colder countries are less affected, he says, because cold conditions will be less favourable for producing greenhouse gases.

Despite a decade of research documenting the carbon emissions from man-made reservoirs, hydroelectric power still has an undeserved reputation for mitigating global warming. "I think it is important these emissions are counted," says Fearnside.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; energy; environment; globalwarming; greenhouse; hydroelelectric
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To: Willie Green; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dog Gone; Carry_Okie; snopercod
You left out the sterilization of all air and water on the face of Eco-topia!!! (aka "The Worker's Pair-a-dice!")

What we have here... Is "The Enema Within!"

61 posted on 02/24/2005 11:39:00 AM PST by SierraWasp (The Dems have lost whatever "redeeming social value" they ever had!!! Just ask Zell...)
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To: samtheman
There is nothing you can do without harming the environment. Yeah! Go ahead and kill yourself! Release your trapped carbon and methane and other noxious stuff! Can't even die without polluting, can you?

You have no right to exist!

62 posted on 02/24/2005 11:43:03 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: sleepy_hollow; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; calcowgirl; forester; NormsRevenge
"Hunter Thompson themselves"

Oh ho ho ho... That's good!!! They, like Hunter, have no redeeming social value!!!

63 posted on 02/24/2005 11:45:03 AM PST by SierraWasp (The Dems have lost whatever "redeeming social value" they ever had!!! Just ask Zell...)
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To: biblewonk

Ahhhhhh Yes... Of cours... NOT!!!


64 posted on 02/24/2005 11:46:51 AM PST by SierraWasp (The Dems have lost whatever "redeeming social value" they ever had!!! Just ask Zell...)
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To: samtheman
All of the fuel assemblies at TMI-II had damage of one sort or another. Some had only breached the cladding, while others had significant melting of the fuel meat. The core as a whole did not melt.

Chornobil? It was a kind of combination of meltdown and burnup. The initial power transient caused significant comminution of the fuel and some melting, with decay heat causing the additional melting. The dispersion was driven primarily by the subsequent graphite fire. Fission products were being released from the fuel as the burning proceeded and likely wouldn't have gone far unless borne aloft by the heated air from the fire.

There were some destructive tests done in the 1950s as part of the SPERT and BORAX tests, but those were test reactors.

So your point is valid. Certainly LWR technology as used in the West is a very forgiving design. For a zero-emissions source of reliable, affordable baseload electricity, it is hard to beat.

65 posted on 02/24/2005 12:47:28 PM PST by chimera
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To: samtheman; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; AMDG&BVMH; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
66 posted on 02/24/2005 1:11:07 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!


67 posted on 02/24/2005 1:29:03 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Carry_Okie; Libertarianize the GOP; SierraWasp; farmfriend
Just posted this Long Piece and pinged most of you....refutes some of this crap....

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PERSPECTIVES: RISING CO2 LEVELS - THE REASON WHY ~~The earth has a cycle

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DO ADJUST YOUR SCREENS>>>>

68 posted on 02/24/2005 1:31:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
They want us to live in caves.

The left wants us to be naked cave families.
Peta wouldn't be happy about the fur coats
we would wear. No power or fuel no more
synthetic fabrics.

They aren't called the Loony Left for nothing.

I forgot to mention that the left will never
live the lifestyle they preach about.

69 posted on 02/24/2005 3:04:26 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: samtheman
More crap from New "Scientist".

According to CDIAC, methane's effect on "global warming" is 23 times that of CO2, not 21 (this is referred to as "Global Warming Potential" or GWP). However, we notice that the article says nothing about the current atmospheric concentration of methane, which is a measly 1852 Parts Per Billion (PPB). That's only 0.0001852% of the atmosphere!

By comparison, CO2 concentrations are about 375 PPM, or 0.0375% of the atmosphere. Since GWP is a comparison based on an equivalent mass of CO2, we see that the atomic mass of methane is 16.04 where CO2 is 44.0, roughly 2.743 times more than methane. What does that mean?

If I got my math right, it means that current methane levels have to rise to 0.00447% (over 24 times the current level) to reach CO2's current measly potential.

Do we clearly see how the "Warmiacs" are trying to scare the public? But that's not all. NASA reported in November of 2003 that methane levels have flat-lined over the previous 4 years. No rise in levels. The article also does not mention that methane only lasts 10 years or less in the atmosphere before hydrogen radicals break it down into CO2 and water vapor.

So where's the threat?

C'mon, you pseudoscience green freaks! You haven't scared me yet. Show me the real science to back your BS claims!


70 posted on 02/24/2005 4:00:56 PM PST by Outland (Global warming: The hottest scam on the planet.)
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To: samtheman

First a correction to my previous post... "over 24 times the current level" was intended to read "almost 24 times the current level".

Second: What about the world wide mass of vegetation that decays along every water way and coastline, every creek, stream, river, lake and sea? Vegetation decay due to dams is miniscule in comparison.

Yet methane levels have not increased. Go figure.

Where are the real scientists today?


71 posted on 02/24/2005 4:07:53 PM PST by Outland (Global warming: The hottest scam on the planet.)
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To: samtheman

Life in general is a bad thing for the environment.
Especially Human life.
What a crock!
I hope that idiot don't get his water from one of them bad boy reseviors or I would call him a hypocrite!


72 posted on 02/24/2005 7:36:35 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: N. Theknow

Burn off the vegetation before it rots! Get fast results over the time released version of emissions.
A log on the fire releases no more CO than decaying matter, but it releases stored energy faster. But the wackos don't like anything that benefits mankind or gasp......makes a profit!


73 posted on 02/24/2005 7:48:29 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Major_Risktaker

Its called "I've got mine."


74 posted on 02/25/2005 6:03:56 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: o_zarkman44
It's a complex model. Anyone who has modeled complex systems with various feedback terms, sources, sinks, excitations, and dampenings, each with their own time constant, will know that it takes a long time to reach even a semblance of equilibrium (if it ever does), and any kind of perturbation tends to result in dynamic effects that are often counterintuitive. So rates of emissions and absorption can be a factor. If you dump a lot of something into the system quickly, over a short time span, the system behavior varies from that observed for longer and more gradual release times. If the system is close to a critical point, even small perturbations can tip the overall balance one way or the other, in a quite dramatic manner.

So, global warming or global cooling? From what I've seen of either model, the measured data points seem "noisy". That is, they have large error bars. Attempting to benchmark various models with such data comes close to GIGO, and basing public policy on GIGO is probably a bad idea.

75 posted on 02/25/2005 9:21:14 AM PST by chimera
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