Churchill attacks essay's critics(Freeper Protests)

The Honolulu Star-Bulletin ^

[End Times Sentinel]

No, I'm basing it on six years of living in Hawaii.  How long did you live there?

 

Please don't try to lecture me with your "what ifs".  Know what you know, know what you don't know.

 

But following your logic, only Native Americans are eligible to call themselves Americans.

 

Can you show me on any of my thousands of posts here where I used that logic pertaining to citizenship?  I'm sorry, but you're just making things up now.  Not a convincing way to advance an argument.

Owl_Eagle

"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

-Hillary Clinton

(Yes, she really said that

Peggy Noonan

The Case Against Hillary Clinton, pg 55)

[Destro]

You are not getting my point. Schools need an atmosphere where views that are nutty can be allowe dto be voiced. This "ivory tower" system is what the USSR did not have but we in the Western world do have. Now you feel uncomfortable with some nut jobs in the Ivory Tower? Then the solution is to not have the State involved in running higher education schools but the solution is not to litmus test the academics.

That is all I have to say - every time I respond it bumps this nonesense to the top and makes this guy even more famous.

[DBeers]

every time I respond it bumps this nonesense to the top and makes this guy even more famous.

LOL -so stop responding as if you have to -like free speech, postings by posters to other posters does not imply required reading or responding by posters a poster posts to.

[Destro]

Let us put it this way - these protests may make us feel better but in actuality they failed - the crowd was a sell out crowd and thus I call for a change of tactics - silence and ignoring of this shamus.

[AmericanVictory]

What schools need today is to be freed of the dominance of nutty and irresponsible and wrong views over teaching truth and common sense. There is no evidence whatsoever that allowing nuttiness and warmed over Marxism to dominate benefits us. Actual diverse views are not allowed and are banned from discussion by the dominant nuts. The result is, in an information age, that universities are increasingly recognized as not being purveyors of truth at all, but the opposite. They risk making themselves obsolete in an information age when people can get the truth regardless of their determination to monopolize it in order to cram that which is not so down people's throats.

The notion that ignoring the corruption of the universities will make it go away is quaint but has no connection with reality. Your mistaken view of the importance of keeping wrongdoing from being exposed to a mass audience is simply wrong. Please keep your word and don't say any more. The decision on Ward Churchill will be made, he will be fired for valid reasons and it will inspire others to get rid of similar frauds elsewhere. It will be as a result of "new media."

[Destro]

What schools need today is to be freed of the dominance of nutty and irresponsible and wrong views

Who says what is wrong or right? The State? State sponsorship is the problem - if it was private - then the market would decide.

[GVnana]

Nice Freep!

[AmericanVictory]

We, the people, as the Constitution directs. Who said anything about the State. It is the State, and the worship of it, that has created the problem.

[Destro]

The State funds these schools is my point. If this ass worked in a private institution then protesting him would be a waste of time - the only protest that would count would be in the market place - less students attending that school.

[Seaplaner]

...I'm the one on the left of the top picture which was the front page of the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Leaning - You da man!

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[nopardons]

But schools and colleges and universities are filled to the brim with these people and it the Conservative voice that is silenced.

And airing Ward's dirty linen in public,is making a lot of people not only angry,but ready to take on the world of academe.You're dead wrong about just ignoring Ward.

[Destro]

You got my point wrong - I am not saying ignore all on the left that are in error - Go after lefties that count - this guy was a nobody lefty now made into a somebody. In some cases some need to be confronted - the well known can't get any more famous - and some ignored and left to be forgotten like Ward.

[nopardons]

Actually,he wasn't a "nobody" before this all came to light;many colleges across this nation had already signed him up to speak. Just because we never heard of him before,doesn't mean that many in IVORY TOWERLAND had never heard of him.And THAT is my point.

[Destro]

Well now he is uber famous and comanding more money per appearance.

[nopardons]

That won't last long.

Like the first line of the poem says...: "Gather ye rosebuds whilst ye may..."

[AmericanVictory]

You make my point. Why should the State fund fraud and the teaching of that which is not so? Prior to the decentralization of communications we could not get rid of the teaching of that which is not so because the centralized command media had a vested interest in protecting the teaching that which is not so because they themselves were busy trying to inculcate the public with the same "progressive" falsehoods. We can now bypass that blockade and insist that taxpayer funded universities begin to teach the truth.

[Destro]

,i>that taxpayer funded universities begin to teach the truth

Nothing funded by taxpayers will approach truth. Since everyone's tax money is spent who is to say what crackpot can or can not speak? The majority? What of minority views? If it was funded by private miney then you take out the political equation - what survives does so because of the market - i.e. - students pay money to learn. That way you and I would and everyone else thankfully have zero to say in regards to such things.

[AmericanVictory]

In other words, good men should do nothing and let evil triumph. We have now the ability to longer accept this state of affairs. Falsehood is not a minority right. A charlatan like Ward Churchill is measurable as such by objective standards that are not mere opinion and such judgment suppresses no legitimate minority right. If we pay the bill we have the right to speak out against such fraud. Your view of these things is quite distorted and irrational in that it in essence is that we are powerless to correct falsehood now that we can know of it. That was only true when the Dan Rather's of the world had the power to keep us from knowing of the falsehood. It is true no longer.

[reformjoy]

good job!!!! congratulations for representing all of us!!

[Destro]

In other words, good men should do nothing and let evil triumph.

Evil? I don't like Taliban like pronouncments on speech. The best defense in the war of ideas is a good counter argument.