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To: 95 Bravo

Snotty remarks, eh? Must have been reading your own comments again.

Did a majority vote for Hitler? Never.
Did the people want war? Actually, a majority did not, also there was no chance to express their disapproval. Germany slipped into the dictatorship, even because it was unprecedented and not enough people expected these cruelties.

Were it the women, the children, the refugees that lived in Berlin who committed or approved the crimes against Germanys neighbour states, its Jewish or regime-opposing population? Certainly not most of them. By wishing that they should have been killed by the ultimate bomb you show nothing else than that what you pretend to despise: approval of collective guilt!

Let´s make a comparison: Iraqis didn´t stood up against Saddam in 1991, when he attacked Kuwait and brutally killed Kurds, did they? No? So why didn´t you want that your President dropped the big one on Baghdad? I tell you why: because you don´t believe in collective guilt, actually. But Germans are worse, Germans are evil, all Germans are evil, it´s their "national character". Tell you what? I get sick of this BS. Naturally, it is hard to compare the Nazi crimes with anything else in history. But that must never lead to forgetting individual guilt. Learn to differentiate between evil and good not only when looking at Iraqis but also when looking at Germans (of 1945 and 2005).

Btw, we have lots of good people today. Europe´s most read newspaper has a great commentary about America today. In short this is what the author wrote:
"Can 2/3 of the people fail? Of course they can. 2/3 of Germans think we don´t have to show grattitude to America. These 2/3 are wrong. ...Without America, Berlin would be Chruchovgrad today, without America, we couldn´t enjoy the freedom to say what we want - including criticizing the American, Russian or German President. ..."

Hope you got the message.


71 posted on 02/24/2005 9:30:30 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus

So, let me get this straight- Hitler was actually opposed by a majority of Germans? Then HOW was he elected Chancellor? The silence after election day must have been deafening.
You want to talk about individual responsibility? If there was such opposition to Hitler, why did the civil population allow themselves to be seduced by him? Was it thousands of department-store dummies screaming "Sieg Heil!" at the Nuremburg Rallies? Who tooled up the factories and stoked the blast furnaces at Krupp and Rheinmetall and Heinkel? Who dug the coal and milled the steel and ran the trains? Who built the Messerschmitts and Focke-Wulfs and Panzers and U-Boats? Who allowed the Boy Scouts to become the Hitler Youth? Who allowed the judicial system to be come kangaroo courts? Who failed to protest the treatment of Jews after Kristallnacht? Who supplied the warm bodies that swelled the ranks of the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine and Waffen-SS? Who smiled for the newsreel cameras as their Panzers smashed through Poland, Holland, Belgium and France? Who fell asleep and let an entire country become a monstrosity?
Millions of ordinary Germans, both men and women. Millions of INDIVIDUAL Germans who could have refused to run the trains, or dig the coal, or build the Panzers, or serve in a conquering army. But they didn't.
Where was the resistance? You guys are supposed to be such great organizers, why was there never any significant opposotion to the Nazis? At least in the beginning, you outnumbered them thousands to one.
War stinks, whether waged with small arms or nukes. But Germany introduced the world to Blitzkrieg, and to total war, not America.
I regret the necessity that led to the development of the
atomic bomb. But I don't regret that we used it to defeat our enemies and ultimately bring an end to WW II.
I don't think Germans are evil. But I'm damned tired of seeing the USA run down by Europe. If pictures like these are all we see, how can we help but be angry about it?
We're in a fight for our lives, and the Islamic maniacs that started it have Germany on the hit list too. But you don't believe it.
Again, where are the German voices in support of the USA today? Where is the newspaper coverage or TV coverage that counterbalances pictures like the one that started this thread? Personally, I'd like to see some. It would help lower my blood pressure when I think about Europe.


73 posted on 02/24/2005 11:22:59 AM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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