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To: DevSix; piasa
I have have a good friend that was on the ground with an SOF (ODA) team just outside of Nasiriya early on in the invasion. It wasn't his team but two others that worked with Chalabi that said he was not to be trusted (and in many ways was trying to undercut our efforts immediately upon hitting the ground within Iraq).

So you're repeating hearsay from your friend who himself was not a witness to what he told you. Who told your friend this, were they in turn witnesses or relying on hearsay, what were the specific actions they allege Chalabi engaged in that "undercut our efforts", and what political faction of the military were they aligned with?

For an "on the record" account of this go read Masters of Chaos (a very good read) - Both Major John Burns as well as Major Randy Wurst

You mean New York Times correspondent John Burns? BTW rather than Randy Wurst are you sure you don't mean James Wurst of the U.N. Correspondents Association:

Journalists Exposed on the U.N. Payroll; George Soros, Ted Turner Pay for Journalism Prizes:

AIM also asked James Wurst and Tony Jenkins about financial contributions to UNCA from Ted Turner's U.N. Foundation and the Open Society Institute of George Soros. Wurst is the current UNCA president.

Wurst has written a number of pieces on Chalabi for Ted Turner's Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI)'s Global Security Newswire: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=+site:www.nti.org+jim+wurst+chalabi.

Both these men say Chalabi is a snake - (along with another half-dozen who are not named within the book).

More anonymous sources.

21 posted on 02/25/2005 2:12:57 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
For an "on the record" account of this go read Masters of Chaos (a very good read) - Both Major John Burns as well as Major Randy Wurst You mean New York Times correspondent John Burns? BTW rather than Randy Wurst are you sure you don't mean James Wurst of the U.N. Correspondents Association: Journalists Exposed on the U.N. Payroll; George Soros, Ted Turner Pay for Journalism Prizes: AIM also asked James Wurst and Tony Jenkins about financial contributions to UNCA from Ted Turner's U.N. Foundation and the Open Society Institute of George Soros. Wurst is the current UNCA president. Wurst has written a number of pieces on Chalabi for Ted Turner's Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI)'s Global Security Newswire: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=+site:www.nti.org+jim+wurst+chalabi. Both these men say Chalabi is a snake - (along with another half-dozen who are not named within the book). More anonymous sources.

Fool - Both John Burns and Randy Wurst are Major's within the U.S. Military. Both with more than 20 years experience!

You don't have a clue to what you are talking about! How utterly odd for you to go out and find two other people with like names and suggest these are the same two people.

Wow is that dumb!

Again, both SOF operators Burns and Wurst are "on record" in the book Masters of Chaos explaining all this about Mr. Chalabi (and more, concerning looting at all the rest).

As for your comment about "more anonymous" sources - Yeah, there are another half dozen SOF personal who are not identified by name (for varying reasons) that also talk about Mr. Chalabi - (but of course, you know more than these guys who were on the ground with him in Iraq.).

Please. (oh wait, even if you did have their names, you'd google them and then suggest they were actually other people). That is just too funny and dumb.

Have you read Masters of Chaos? If not, why? Why aren't you informed yet you want to try and criticize others who have much more information that you.

You are foolish enough to try and turn Randy Wurst into "James Wurst" - Wow, again, is that dumb.

22 posted on 02/25/2005 5:38:07 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Fedora
So you're repeating hearsay from your friend who himself was not a witness to what he told you. Who told your friend this, were they in turn witnesses or relying on hearsay, what were the specific actions they allege Chalabi engaged in that "undercut our efforts", and what political faction of the military were they aligned with?

The same questions could be asked of you! - What political faction are you with? Both Major Burns and Wurst are full hearted supporters of the War in Iraq as well as the WOT - Both men have actually seen combat (have you?) - Both men have actually worked with Mr. Chalabi (have you?). Both men were among the first into Afghanistan after Sept 11th (were you?). - Both men were among the first into Iraq (were you?).

Wait, you could know all this by simply reading a book readily available to you - (yet you choose not to, but at the same time want to question others or act as if you have a clue to what you are talking about - When it is clear you do not!).

As for you suggesting I am repeating "hearsay" - Call it what you want - (which for the record I have never said it wasn't, in terms of what a friend of mine has said. That being the SOF that worked with Mr. Chalabi on the ground outside of Nasiriya all thought the man a snake!) - You oddly for some reason what to assume all these SOF guys are wrong and somehow your take on Mr. Chalabi is more accurate! Please.

Fact is Mr. Chalabi was arrested by US troops less than 8 months after these SOF worked with him (What, was the US military also wrong about Mr. Chalabi in arresting him? Are they all wrong and your take still correct?) -

Oh wait, Mr. Chalabi didn't give a bunch of bogus Intel to our Pentagon prior to the invasion of Iraq (oh wait, he did!).

Lastly, while me friend in theater (near Nasiriya) didn't actually work with the ODA's assigned to Mr. Chalabi - he most certainly did meet him and have various encounters with him over apprx a months time frame.

23 posted on 02/25/2005 5:46:38 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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