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1 posted on 02/23/2005 7:41:07 AM PST by jmc1969
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I'll take the devil we know in Allawi. I hope he pulls this out.


2 posted on 02/23/2005 7:49:36 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: jmc1969

Interesting that he doesn't think that Chalabi is even a player in this.


3 posted on 02/23/2005 7:54:37 AM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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As long as they stick to a Constitution that espouses the virtues of a free democracy, Iraq's democratic future looks bright.
4 posted on 02/23/2005 8:04:46 AM PST by demlosers
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To: jmc1969

It's either Allawi or a guy in bed with Iran.


5 posted on 02/23/2005 8:11:16 AM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: jmc1969; 1LongTimeLurker; GraniteStateConservative; adam_az
The biggest mistake made by the secular parties, e.g. the former Communists, Sharistani and the royalists, the new list formed by the former Sunni president, etc., etc..., was not coalescing into a solid, viable political bloc.

To think that any one of these parties, alone, was going to have a significant impact on the election was sheer folly.

6 posted on 02/23/2005 8:20:01 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (You are reading my 6,000th post, since November.)
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HOW IRAQ VOTED
During Iraq's elections Jan. 30, 58% of eligible voters turned out to choose among 111 slates. Turnout was high in the peaceful Kurdish north and Shiite south. But voters were reluctant to go to the polls in predominantly Sunni central Iraq and in Mosul, where insurgent violence has been intense. In Anbar province, home to the insurgent strongholds of Fallujah and Ramadi, only 2% voted. The Independent Electoral Commission released turnout statistics on Tuesday for Iraq's 18 provinces:
Province Eligible voters Number of votes Turnout
Anbar 574,138 13,893 2%
Babil 694,192 507,153 73%
Baghdad 3,664, 922 1,887,010 51%
Basra 1,035,055 748,967 72%
Dahuk 429,182 396,824 92%
Diyala 624,099 206,529 33%
Erbil 795, 291 666,362 84%
Karbala 409,081 305,798 75%
Missan 417,273 255,584 61%
Muthanna 295,326 191,336 65%
Najaf 493,808 371,615 75%
Ninevah 1,197,940 203,198 17%
Salah al-Din 498,017 145,656 29%
Sulaimaniyah 914,441 750,837 82%
Tamim 576,048 403,286 70%
Thi-Qar 778,574 535,991 69%
Qadissiya 486,827 344,316 71%
Wassit 494,955 351,801 71%
Total 14,379,169 8,286,156 58%
Does not include votes from overseas.
Source: Iraqi Ministry of Trade

7 posted on 02/23/2005 8:23:46 AM PST by demlosers
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To: jmc1969

He mean traditional liberals as in Republicans or "liberals" as in Christine Gregoire, Gray Davis, Rep. Tubbs, Hillary Clinton, etcetera?


14 posted on 02/23/2005 4:03:07 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: jmc1969
A little realism about al-Jaafari and sharia.

Al-Jaafari and his party cannot turn Iraq into an Islamic state, even if they want to, if they play by the rules. His base of support is not just his own party, but the whole Shiite coalition, most of which is opposed to anything that even smells like Iran. Plus the Shiites don't have a majority anyway, plus there is the three-province veto provision. In addition, the Kurdish parties and others are going to be smelling the new Constitution very closely for even any potential opportunities for openings towards Islamism.

Now the US is going to be in Iraq in force through the whole Constitution writing process at the very least, that is, through the next election, so there will be no opportunity for coup d'etat, which would be the only way of achieving an Islamic state. Al-Jaafari will have to play by the rules.

Our people are probably encouraging Allawi, but I hope they aren't heavy-handed about it. If it doesn't look too much like a US-manipulated ploy, Allawi's getting in on the act will be a good thing, because with real opposition, al-Jaafari will have to make promises and accept conditions that will paint him into a tighter corner than he's already in. It's a game called politics, and everything that gets Iraqis playing it is to our advantage.

26 posted on 02/26/2005 8:53:51 AM PST by Southern Federalist
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