[hchutch]

What's the matter? Can't discuss it civilly?

Or are you surprised we can call things as we see it, too, and take stands ourselves? That maybe we don't believe in trading our liberties for the promise of security?

[Mr. Mojo]

"......maybe we don't believe in trading our liberties for the promise of security?"

How, exactly, would placing the National Guard at the borders and cutting off all (welfare) benefits to illegal aliens be infringing on our liberties?

[F16Fighter]

"Are you surprised we can call things as we see it, too, and take stands ourselves? That maybe we don't believe in trading our liberties for the promise of security?"

As mentioned already, FR is indeed a forum. A forum of opinion, at which others are free to assess that opinion critically.

There are those of you who are too readily willing to abdicate America's right to enforce -- by WHATEVER means -- it's sovereignty.

Your belief that the U.S. is "trading our liberties [National ID Card, governmental internet access, etc.] for the promise of security" is directly attributed to the President's unwillingness to deport illegal invaders and prioritize border enforcement as a "solution."

This is NOT rocket science.