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Law and Borders
The Weekly Standard ^ | 2/28/2005 | Tamar Jacoby

Posted on 02/23/2005 5:15:25 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez

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To: antisocial
If the Bush plan is so "Nuanced" that it takes someone 6 pages to explain it, that means to me it is a bad idea.

Not as simple as "Juden raus," or "White Pride," or "There is no god but Allah." You don't need 6 pages to explain Dubya's illegal immigrant policy, but for some people 6 pages of truth will never counter the lies of their mind. 6 pages was not enough for you.

361 posted on 02/23/2005 10:25:49 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: F16Fighter
ANYONE who is for making excuses for NOT rigorously enforcing the border, deporting illegals, rescinding benefits for those in the U.S. illegally is either NOT a patriot, but a 'Globalist' first and foremost.

Stalin rigorously enforced the border without thought to humanity. I see you as a similar "patriot."

362 posted on 02/23/2005 10:33:13 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: jmc813
Your opinion is gay.

Just want to repeat your well thought out "opinion." You guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel so far. This is your best work in my opnion.

363 posted on 02/23/2005 10:41:04 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: spectre
Talking points from Nancy Pelosi's office? Ha! Now you are accusing ME of being a Democrat?

He might not have been refering to the fact that Pelosi is a rat. Maybe he was trying to point out Pelosi is a moron.

364 posted on 02/23/2005 10:46:25 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler
"Sadly it is only our side that disputes the Paleos who talk of illegals as less than human. You didn't call them that...you just don't disagree. Nice record to stand on.... We didn't demonize you. We showed you a mirror."

Now let ME show YOU a mirror...

We realize it is YOUR ilk who judges the entire U.S. Armed Forces by those at Abu Ghraib.

Let the "record" say of those who stand on the principle that we patriots of the United States of America, have the right to call to action the protection and preservation of our sovereign border, homes and towns from unauthorized foreign invaders, without censorship, or by slanderous accusations of "racist" by association.

"Racism is not the same as racebaiting...I sleep well at night because I don't think I am used by scum."

Big deal. ALL delusional globalist idiots sleep well at night.

365 posted on 02/23/2005 10:48:25 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: hchutch
I have no objection to cutting off welfare benefits, but I also want citizens cut off them, too.

Ah HA! You socialist traitor!!!

366 posted on 02/23/2005 10:49:09 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler
"Stalin rigorously enforced the border without thought to humanity. I see you as a similar 'patriot.'"

That's funny.

I see you as a traitor and perfect tool of Pravda.

What kind of odd "America" your ilk must imagine...It certainly resembles nothing like the Founders envisioned.

367 posted on 02/23/2005 10:51:54 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
I see you as a traitor and perfect tool of Pravda.

Why should I care what you think double F? I've already shown you to be a Stalin fan.

368 posted on 02/23/2005 10:59:20 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler; sheana
No reply, I see.
369 posted on 02/23/2005 11:04:41 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: F16Fighter
We realize it is YOUR ilk who judges the entire U.S. Armed Forces by those at Abu Ghraib.

Hogwash. My posts are easy to find. just click on my name. You'll not find one post were I have denigrated our military. You're the one who thinks our military is better suited fighting janitors and nannys. You can't possible be smart enought to be a fighter piliot like our beloved President. Change your name you fraud.

370 posted on 02/23/2005 11:06:32 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler
You denigrate the legacy of our Founding Fathers, and you denigrate, marginalize, and slander millions of patriots by associating them and their defense of our borders with "racists."

What's the matter -- can't you find a FR version of Pravda?

371 posted on 02/23/2005 11:16:41 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter

I have not denigrated, nor slandered anyone...lest of all you. I have no need to find a FR version of Pravda, because I believe in freedom. You believe freedom is a limited resource. You are the one trying to limit the freedom of men. Shame on you, Berlin wall boy.


372 posted on 02/23/2005 11:21:51 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: hershey
The border problem had better be solved before one of the illegals turns out to be an Al Qaeda bomber. But perhaps that's what it will take for the US to secure control of her borders

That almost sounds like wishful thinking. As the articles says, we should fix the border problem so we can focus on terrorism. Illegal immigration and terrorism are not the same issue no matter how many Freepers want to think of poor Latinos searching for work as the enemy of all America holds dear.

373 posted on 02/23/2005 11:28:45 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: F16Fighter
The Iraq War is going to wind up cost the American taxpayer a quarter of a trillion dollars.

Money well spent and God bless our troops for fighting against terrorism even though some boobs insist on counting the dollars spent above the lives saved.

Your premise is dead wrong. The government of the United States of America is obligated to secure the border from invasion. That's right -- WE'VE BEEN INVADED.

Your hyperbole shows how out of touch with reality you are. If the USA was invaded I would be seeing news stories on TV and in the papers. I would hear sirens instead of your tired blather. Get a grip.

But the Bush Administration has decided NOT to treat this invasion as anymore a priority then an IRS audit.

The Bush administration has decided to treat this "invasion" more seriously than any President in the last 40 years.

374 posted on 02/23/2005 11:38:42 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler
"You are the one trying to limit the freedom of men. Shame on you, Berlin wall boy."

You believe in "freedom" as YOU define it....

You see, there's a thing called "sovereignty."

Countries have "sovereignty." Your home has "sovereignty." So has your bedroom. I assume strangers are not "free" to enter there, OR are they?

The "freedom" of men is limited or superceded by a declared sovereignty -- subject to invitation or permission.

Your soul mates -- illegal invaders -- have neither an invitation nor permission to enter these United States of America.

What's so hard to understand, Pravda Patsy?

375 posted on 02/23/2005 11:40:43 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: TheForceOfOne
Clueless, how sad.

Yes you are.

376 posted on 02/23/2005 11:46:58 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler
"The Bush administration has decided to treat this 'invasion' more seriously than any President in the last 40 years."

Barely.

And that's even after 9/11 and all the phony hoopla over the supposed efficacy of 'Homeland Security.' But one could argue they're only doing what they're told...

Despite ALL the security risks, economic strains, and the surrender of America's sovereignty, Dubya Bush's treatment of this "invasion" is absolutely shameful.

No matter how much lipstick you want to put on this pig, it's still a pig.

377 posted on 02/23/2005 11:47:37 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
The "freedom" of men is limited or superceded by a declared sovereignty -- subject to invitation or permission.

That is not what our Declaration of Independence says. Perhaps you should read it. It says all men are created equal. It says God gives man the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It calls these statements "truths." You say the laws of the USA supersedes God's law. I believe it is "self evident" you are ignorant of the matters in which you write.

378 posted on 02/23/2005 11:55:17 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Dane
Yeah exactly, yawn at a canned answer, that doesn't address the issue.

The "issue" is easy to address. Identify the illegals, then deport them.

379 posted on 02/23/2005 11:57:54 PM PST by Penner
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To: F16Fighter
"The Bush administration has decided to treat this 'invasion' more seriously than any President in the last 40 years."

Barely.

Then we agree... The Bush administration has decided to treat this 'invasion' more seriously than any President in the last 40 years.

380 posted on 02/23/2005 11:58:02 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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