John and Ken, the Howard Stern like fix for the mine the border and build a wall crowd. 
Posted on 02/23/2005 5:15:25 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
Unlike you, the majority of America doesn't get sexually aroused by images of kids getting their legs blown off.
What happens [in Europe] will soon be our battle as business interests and their political whores seek to do the same in this hemisphere. "
Agreed.
And it's what we're doing in this case at FR -- making it clear we're making a stand NOW.
Send your resume to ralph nader, seems you hate business as much as he does.
You want "honest"?
ANYONE who is for making excuses for NOT rigorously enforcing the border, deporting illegals, rescinding benefits for those in the U.S. illegally is either NOT a patriot, but a 'Globalist' first and foremost.
So why don't YOU be "honest" and admit as much -- or continue in your European-style delusion.
You FROBL's seem to buy into statements like this:
"Our immigration system is indeed based on illegality--on a long-standing and all but deliberate mismatch between the size of our yearly quotas and the actual needs of our labor market, particularly at the lower reaches of the job ladder. This mismatch has often been convenient for employers--it provides a docile, disposable foreign labor force--and it has been the norm in agriculture off and on for nearly a hundred years. But in recent decades, new technologies have spurred demand for low-skilled workers in a wide range of other sectors as well, and the public, quite understandably, is beginning to find the hypocrisy intolerable.
What the author is really saying is that we must depend on slave labor and that it's a long tradition.
The truth is that if businesses weren't over-regulated and over-taxed, they could make a reasonable profit without importing slave labor.
This whole problem is the result of taxing and regulating of businesses so the legislatures will have more tax money for more programs so they can increase the dependency of more people on the benevolent government. When they killed the goose that layed the golden egg, the only option was to entice more illegal immigrants to start the whole process over again.
Socialism marches on unabated and the FROBL's cheer it on!!!
Yes, the president's plan is a way to regain control of the people who are here.
The current non-system and any future system based on controlling the border still will not know who is here or not.
OOH, I'm so scared I have been called a FROBL. I'm cowering in the corner at your lie.(/sarcasm)
So now, you question my patriotism? Smears, lies, and innuendos seems to be the order of the day for the Malkin-Tancredo "Amen Corner".
Many of us who support the President's plan want the borders controlled - we oppose open borders. We are just not willing to use walls, the military, or to trade away civil liberties for the promise that the issue will be brought under control.
And for not being part of the "Amen Corner" the name-calling flies: "Globalist", "FROBL", etc.
If you can discuss this issue with civility, be my guest. But if you wish to slander those who have the temerity to think for themselves and thus come to different conclusions than yourself, then so be it.
BINGO!!!
All they have are lies and name-calling.
Yawn.
John and Ken, the Howard Stern like fix for the mine the border and build a wall crowd.
Forums are generally participated in by people with O-PIN-IONS. FR happens to be a conservative forum.
"Many of us who support the President's plan want the borders controlled - we oppose open borders. We are just not willing to use walls, the military, or to trade away civil liberties for the promise that the issue will be brought under control."
IOW, just as I though -- "SURRENDER-LITE"
" And for not being part of the 'Amen Corner' the name-calling flies: 'Globalist', 'FROBL', etc.
"Amen Corner," eh? Is that considered "name-calling"?
Amusing.
Mexico, if we take (and pay for) your 12 million people, we want cession of territory as compensation. The states of Baja California Norte, Baja California Sur, Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon, and Tamaulipas will become US Territories and turned into a low tax, free-trade zone called the Republic of South Texas. Workers from the remainder of Mexico and other Central and South American states will be welcomed. Companies from around the world will be invited to build factories in the new zone. Narcotic use will be decriminalized in the Republic, taking the cartels out of the equation and creating an instant buffer zone between Mexico and the US. The Republic will be largely self-governing, however military affairs will be overseen by the US Department of Defense and policing by the Department of Homeland Security.
And, the US gets the right to buy as much Mexican oil as we want for twenty years at $25/barrel or at the market price, whichever is lower.
Once we get these concessions we can proceed with the Bush plan, which probably is the only logical way to deal with the illegals already here in the US. Many of those illegals would relocate to the new Republic immediately, easing the burden.
You just used the term "Malkin-Tancredo Amen Corner" in your most recent post. Why not admit that this is a heated issue and that no one side is clean?
Yawn
Yeah exactly, yawn at a canned answer, that doesn't address the issue.
What's the matter? Can't discuss it civilly?
Or are you surprised we can call things as we see it, too, and take stands ourselves? That maybe we don't believe in trading our liberties for the promise of security?
Truth is a defense.
POLL: Should President Bush Grant Amnesty to Illegal Aliens?
Results: 2/21/05
Yes: (123,454) 2%
No: (6,169,823) 98%
TOTALS: 6,293,277 total votes since 02/07/05http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=9415
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