Posted on 02/22/2005 4:22:02 PM PST by groanup
My economist brother in law estimated that the overall government share of GDP was in the 45% range. This discussion was 10 or 15 years ago.More like 30% for federal, state, and local.
I remember that article from when it came out originally. I will definitely print it out for use with the FairTax presentations I do.
Thanks for tripping over it and stopping to pick it up for us. ;-)
I remember that article from when it came out originally. I will definitely print it out for use with the FairTax presentations I do.Be sure to tell you audience that these figures assume we aren't paying income or payroll taxes.
I'm not understanding what you're saying. Well, I THINK I may have a vague grasp of it, but I'm not certain. Please educate. :)
The fairtax (gross payment tax) would just tax all of those taxes not repealed.
Good argument for the Fair Tax.
How? It's revenue neutral and replaces any repealed taxes with an exorbitant sales tax...There's no free lunch.
Not a chance. He's working on the Fair Tax and that's where we need him now. ;-)
Get out there and work on that governor yourselves. Don't let him get away with this crap. It always amazes me that Americans stand in line to vote for a king every 4 years and ignore their governmental and state elections (present company excluded, of course.)
I'm glad I live in a state that doesn't have toll roads. (At least none that I can think of.)
I just got an e-mail from the Devil. They're having snowball fights down there. I agree with you.
Not all of them. But I think you're right about the hidden excise taxes, like on tobacco.
LOL!!! Me, too!
By their calculations, it would be easy to show that 95% of your income is consumed by taxes. They like to count multiple times.
You're looking at the explicit taxes. That doesn't count implicit costs -- federal mandates. Cost of tax collection. Mandated training programs (which have a lot of waste). Diversity programs. These are things which technically are privately paid, but would be rarely done if they weren't forced. Its government involvement by another name, and its inefficient, and its significant.
There's also a lot of embedded taxes you don't catch by adding up the average fed, state, and local rates. Hotel taxes. Road tax on gasoline. Prepared food taxes. "User" fees. And on, and on... and on.
Government needs money they can leaseout all the land they own, and we fight wars for freedom for cost plus 10%.
France gets charged cost plus 40%.
They have to pay upfront in Gold.
"By their calculations, it would be easy to show that 95% of your income is consumed by taxes. They like to count multiple times."
By "their" and "they", I assume that you mean Americans For Tax Reform, which is where these estimates came from.
AG, isn't that Grover Nordquist's group? (Hope I spelled his name right)
Hey Geez, how about NO TAXES NOT ONE, NO Sales Tax, and No Income TAX.
Constitution lays out the method pay the government's bills and debt in no uncertain terms.
Constitution for the United States of America:
- Article I Section 8: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises,
to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States;"
Government needs money they can leaseout all the land they own
I'd prefer to see the government sell such holdings my self and turn it over to private hands. Why should land be in the government's control beyond that which is necessary to the defense of the nation?
"Think about your humanity. How can live with yourself." Well you can e-mail him. He's from Texas and he's big on eminent domain issues.
http://boortz.com/
LOL!!! Me, too!
That's because like many before you you've decided to pay attention to the facts rather than the rhetoric.
Thanks much - it's in work. Hopefully Neal can get some free time to save the country (and perhaps the world) from a toll road maniac.
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