[brushcop]

And that's the only way it really works correctly. I haven't seen any of these stay-at-home Dads that weren't lacking somehow--feminized men, meanwhile, the nurturers of the family are out there dealing with everything else and, I suspect, doing more than their fair share after they get home.

[familyop]

"I haven't seen any of these stay-at-home Dads that weren't lacking somehow--feminized men,..."

I haven't seen any of these work-outside-the-home Moms that weren't lacking somehow--manly women,... ...haven't seen any bosses or "human resources" "persons" who aren't likely latent homosexuals, either.

[Sarcasm, turnabout]

[Melas]

I've stayed at home for going on 13 years now, and I can assure you that I'm not lacking anything, and I'm definately not an effiminate male.

[familyop]

To be a lot more sincere, I agree with you on what works better. But I don't put the blame in general on either men or women who are caught up in the current fast money, bad future schemes. And most two-earner couples are dog tired when they get home to their kids who are reared by socialist others (public education and "daycare"). As for men with the "my daughters" this and "my daughters" that attitude [against the sons of others], IMO, our daughters would be much happier in an anti-feminazi kind of world--our western culture idiocy where men are generally and solely ridiculed in television, our universities, our workplaces--even elementary/primary schools. We flooded our labor pool long ago with wives and no-fault divorce, and that money has dried up. Now we flood it with people from the cheap Third World in an effort to keep what feels good right now going like a wildfire.

"Then it will be plain that the first condition for the liberation of the wife is to bring the whole female sex back into public industry, and that this in turn demands the abolition of the monogamous family as the economic unit of society" (Frederick Engels, "Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State").

Mao's Little Red Book on Women
http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Mao/Mao-31-Women.html

Some of Lenin's words on women
http://www.marx.org/archive/lenin/works/1919/nov/06.htm

The following is from the "Manifesto of the Communist Party" (Karl Marx (1818-1883) and Fredrick Engels)
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

"The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women."

He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.

For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce free love; it has existed almost from time immemorial."

“Everyone who knows anything of history also knows that great social revolutions are impossible without the feminine ferment. Social progress may be measured precisely by the social position of the fair sex (plain ones included)” (Karl Marx Letter to Ludwig Kugelmann, MECW, Volume 43, p. 184, http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1868/letters/68_12_12.htm)

[familyop]

Correction in my comment:
"...our western culture idiocy..." was meant to be "our world being full of the fallen western culture idiocy..."

[HitmanLV]

Ultimately, and this isn't talked about very much, men that take the stay at home role are diminished (mostly subconsciously) in the eyes of their mates.

The traditional sex roles are encoded to a very large extent in both the male and female makeup. The male as hunter and provider, the female as gatherer and nest-builder.

Often (but not always) men who take this route subconsciously feel that they are not taking the classic role in caring for their families. Unease, mental distress, various types of stress-related issues, sexual dysfunction, and a diminished sex drive are not uncommon results (it's not hard to imagine why).

Women with mates who take this role usually verbally and consciously endorse and applaud it, but at a subconscious level realize that their mate isn't fulfilling his role as hunter and gatherer that her DNA tells her he must, so he is diminished as a male, as a provider, and as a source of sexual fulfillment. (Further they recognize that she isn't taking her preferred role - which has been usurped by the male - and that diminished the male further).

It's not uncommon for her to find it increasingly difficult to look to her mate as a source of strength and support (emotionally, physically, etc). Since he has been weakened in her eyes (and a lot of this is under the radar and manifests in unusual ways), she may find it increasingly difficult to be sexually excited by him anymore.

Often these women will become (very naturally) more excited by and attracted to more dominant males they encounter (I don't like the use of the hackneyed 'alpha male,' since its a silly concept really and 'alpha' suggests there can only be one, which is dumb).

Compared to her mate who has lost a big part of his male identity and who might suffer from sexual dysfunction, it's not unusual for the woman to become more sexually excited by a more dominant male, essentially a superior male in her (subconscious) view of the world. Sex with such a man, even if fleeting, is ultimately more rewarding for her emotionally and physically, and cuckolding her otherwise feminized mate is only fitting for the role he took, really: a feminized and inferior male.

Frankly I don't blame women in this position for being more sexually and emotionally excited by more dominant men.

When you get right down to it, there is nothing wrong with a woman rejecting an inferior male for a superior male - its really the most natural thing in the world (witness the consistent phenomena in the animal kingdom, for example).

This doesn't bother me much because....I'm a dominant male! ;-)

[luckystarmom]

My brother was a stay at home dad. It worked out great for them. He was coach of the sports teams, a Boy Scout leader, and very involved in his kids lives.

His kids are 23 and 19 and turned out wonderful!

My brother died this past year, and everyone is thankful of the time he spent at home. He had hundreds of people at his funeral. The old Scout troop brought in flags, and the boys from his old little league team all talked at my brother's funeral.

My sister-in-law is a vice president of her company. She's very successful and everyone loves her.

[sageb1]

Exactly. Go back to work, Dad.

[lizma]

I have a friend who is a stay-at-home dad who's an ex-navy pilot. Nothing girlie about him!

I actually know quit a few dad's who stay home with their kids, most of them are work-at-home dads.